Bug#888656: flowcanvas: should this package be removed? (superseded by ganv)

[Paul Brossier]

hi again,

thanks for answering Felipe.

Alessio, if cadence was in the archive, would removing the UI from
ladish seem like a good solution?

cheers, piem

On 09/10/2018 11:33 PM, Filipe Coelho wrote:
> hey all.
> 
> ladish is pretty much dead.
> that said, you could build the project with just the backend/CLI, and
> leave the gtk ui behind.
> this satisfies cadence (claudia) needs, since it actually implements a
> full new frontend for ladish.
> 
> if that is not an option, just remove ladish altogether and take it out
> as dependency from cadence.
> it is not a hard requirement for it to run, it will just lose some
> features.
> 
> 
> On 10.09.2018 22:20, Paul Brossier wrote:
>> hi all,
>>
>> flowcanvas should definitely removed, and ganv adopted, since it is
>> being used in newer tools such as Cadence (see
>> https://github.com/falkTX/Cadence)
>>
>> ideally, ladish should be switched from using flowcanvas to using ganv.
>> I started looking at that, but there is quite a few API changes between
>> flowcanvas and ganv, so it is a bit more than a trivial search and
>> replace.
>>
>> Maybe drobilla or falktx (CCed) would want to help here?
>>
>> cheers, piem
>>
>>
>> On 01/28/2018 03:12 PM, trebmuh at tuxfamily.org wrote:
>>> Le 2018-01-28 14:38, Simon McVittie a écrit :
>>>> Source: flowcanvas
>>>> Severity: important
>>>> User: debian-qa at lists.debian.org
>>>> Usertags: proposed-removal
>>>> Control: clone -1 -2
>>>> Control: reassign -2 ladish
>>>> Control: retitle -2 ladish: should this package be removed?
>>>>
>>>> flowcanvas depends on numerous obsolete GNOME 2-era libraries
>>>> (e.g. #885095) and hasn't had a maintainer upload since 2009. Its
>>>> upstream
>>>> website says:
>>>>
>>>>      **Note**: FlowCanvas is dead, long live Ganv!
>>>>
>>>> ganv is also in Debian as src:ganv; it's orphaned in Debian, but
>>>> appears
>>>> to have commit activity upstream.
>>>>
>>>> flowcanvas has one reverse-dependency in Debian, gladish (src:ladish),
>>>> whose most recent maintainer upload was in 2014. web.archive.org says
>>>> the ladish.org website has been down since mid 2014.
>>> ladish looks to be maintained by alessio (last commit 20 Apr 2017)
>>> here :
>>> https://github.com/alessio/ladish/
>>> (the same goes laditools as well)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> These packages both seem like candidates for removal from unstable.
>>> It would be a big regression from a user point of view since it'll
>>> remove
>>> the "studio" (reopen everything in one-click) from Debian with no
>>> alternative.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you agree, please reassign this bug to the ftp team with
>>>> control at bugs.debian.org commands similar to these:
>>>>
>>>> severity xxxxxx normal
>>>> reassign xxxxxx ftp.debian.org
>>>> retitle xxxxxx RM: flowcanvas -- RoQA; depends on obsolete libraries,
>>>> superseded by ganv
>>>>
>>>> severity yyyyyy normal
>>>> reassign yyyyyy ftp.debian.org
>>>> retitle yyyyyy RM: ladish -- RoQA; depends on obsolete libraries,
>>>> appears unmaintained upstream
>>>>
>>>> (replacing RoQA with RoM if you are a maintainer of the appropriate
>>>> package).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>      smcv
>>> Hope that helps.
>>> Olivier
>>>
> 
> 

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