[debian-mysql] mysql-5.1 or both mysql-5.5/1

Jonathan Aquilina eagles051387 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 26 07:38:25 UTC 2012

Clint firstly thanks for transitioning ubuntu 12.04 to 5.5 that gives me 
all the more reason to upgrade my vps's that are currently on 10.04

Is there a slated release date for 5.6? if what clint is saying is true  
in regards to oracle not supporting 3 versions it would be better to 
drop 5.1 for 5.5 and eventually 5.6.

To make your life easier Nicholas couldnt you pull the 5.5 packages from 
ubuntu and start transitioning using those packages?

On 4/26/12 12:27 AM, Nicholas Bamber wrote:
> Another approach is to hedge our bets a bit.
> 1.)  complete nysql-5.5 going into unstable
> 2.) migrate dependents onto 5.5 (which AFAIK if it is just a rebuild 
> is a job for the release team) and kick off the translation process.
> 3.) Then take a view on whether drop 5.1 or fix the RC bugs in 5.1 and 
> have both.
> On 25/04/12 18:59, Clint Byrum wrote:
>> Excerpts from Jonathan Aquilina's message of Wed Apr 25 09:23:31 
>> -0700 2012:
>>> On 4/25/12 6:18 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
>>>> Excerpts from Jonathan Aquilina's message of Tue Apr 24 23:07:10 
>>>> -0700 2012:
>>>>> I know I am not part of the team to make this final decision, but 
>>>>> this
>>>>> is how I feel about the situation.
>>>>> This has a double edged sword given by the arguments below. A 
>>>>> transition
>>>>> is going to have to happen at some point, and I think the biggest 
>>>>> thing
>>>>> to consider is this. I had red some documentation, and 5.5 has had a
>>>>> bunch of performance enhancements done to the InnoDB engine. Also 
>>>>> from
>>>>> some oracle devs that I have spoken to more performance 
>>>>> enhancements are
>>>>> slated for 5.6.
>>>>> I am running a number of ubuntu servers, and I am actually 
>>>>> considering
>>>>> installing 5.5 which would be nice to have in the repositories and
>>>>> eventually in a down stream ubuntu release.
>>>> Its important to note that Ubuntu already did this transition.
>>>> Ubuntu 12.04 (releasing tomorrow) ships with MySQL 5.5.22, and 5.1 has
>>>> been dropped from future Ubuntu releases. So there is at least some
>>>> precedent. The transition went rather smoothly. Most of the fixes done
>>>> in Ubuntu packages were pushed back into Debian and have been 
>>>> applied to
>>>> the Debian packages. 99% of the problem was packages with 
>>>> build-depends
>>>> on libmysqlclient16-dev instead of libmysqlclient-dev.
>>>> I would expect a rebuild transition to pickup the new version of
>>>> libmysqlclient.  There are a few things which directly recommend or
>>>> suggest mysql-*-5.1, but those are, IMO, bugs, as the meta package is
>>>> the only one that will always be around.
>>> Clint couldnt you just pull from downstream and make the necessary
>>> adaptations in regards to the packages for debian?
>> In effect, I am downstream. I did most of the work in Ubuntu to complete
>> the 5.5 transition, and pushed most of it back up to Debian maintainers
>> as patches.
>> As we got later in the 12.04 release cycle, I had less time to push
>> things back through Debian. I also have been stalled out a bit in my DD
>> application process, so I've been relying on sponsors. Luckily Nicholas
>> has stepped up and can sponsor uploads for me.
>> I fully intend to spend some time on getting the 5.5 packages up to
>> date and in shape in experimental. Whether or not we can move them into
>> unstable/testing, I don't know.
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