[debian-mysql] MySQL Roundtable at Ubuntu Developer Summit this coming Tuesday

Jonathan Aquilina eagles051387 at gmail.com
Mon May 7 09:41:51 UTC 2012

If you are wanting a vibrant MySQL + clones community in debian why is 
clint mentioning dropping it in both.

I think one thing that needs to be carefully considered is the % of 
debian and ubuntu users who use either mysql or one of the clones. 
Unless Oracle plans to pull the plug on it I dont think its a good idea 
to drop mysql in either but provide the clones and variants in both 
ubuntu and debian. Clint can you explain why you would want to drop 
mysql in upstream debian and ubuntu, instead of just adding the variants 
and allowing the server admins to have a choice?

On 07/05/12 10:32, Nicholas Bamber wrote:
> Jonathan,
>     Dropping MySQL from Debian or Ubuntu (to be replaced by say 
> MariaDB) was floated  back in February 
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mysql-maint/2012-February/003866.html 
> . A clarification and summary was posted here: 
> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-mysql-maint/2012-February/003938.html 
> . I hope this helps. My hope is that in the long term we have a 
> vibrant MySQL + Clones community in Debian.
> On 07/05/12 06:24, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:
>> I wont be able to attend the UDS conference online sadly, as i start
>> exams on friday, but here is my opinion on things.
>> Firstly What is the reasoning about wanting to drop mysql from both
>> debian and ubuntu. All the software I use relies on it and its much
>> easier to get said software working with it then other types of
>> alternatives that are supported.
>> In my past experiences on relying with upstream mysql work bench for
>> packages for newer releases they arent reliable, as they update their
>> packages every other release for ubuntu. This makes it hard for those of
>> us that want to use said tool. Also I feel that the same might hold 
>> true.
>> I would be very disappointed if mysql were removed as it would mean more
>> time for me to get servers that need a back end online as well I am very
>> happy with reliability and stability of it.
>> Will there be a transcript of the meeting online at some point as I
>> would like to read it.
>> Regards
>> Jonathan Aquilina
>> On May 5, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
>>> First, I am sorry for sending this so late. I had intended to send this
>>> 2 weeks ago but it got lost in the fray of a very busy 2 weeks.
>>> We will be discussing the future of MySQL in Ubuntu at the Ubuntu
>>> Developer Summit in Oakland, CA, this coming Tuesday (May 8), at 10:00
>>> local (PDT, so 17:00 UTC).
>>> I would like to invite any of you who are able to join via IRC, or if
>>> you are in the area, come join us physically! Registration is free,
>>> uds.ubuntu.com <http://uds.ubuntu.com>.
>>> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-q/meeting/20323/servercloud-q-mysql-roundtable/ 
>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-mysql-roundtable 
>>> http://uds.ubuntu.com/community/remote-participation/
>>> The channel will be on Freenode, and named 
>>> #ubuntu-uds-grand-ballroom-b ,
>>> and the link to the exact URL for streaming will be in the topic.
>>> For those who have not participated in a UDS before, the audio 
>>> stream is
>>> captured from inside the room, and the IRC channel is projected on one
>>> of two projection screens in the room, so you can listen in and respond
>>> to the live participants via IRC.
>>> I will be considering the future of MySQL in Debian as well, and we 
>>> have
>>> many other Debian Developers who are involved with Ubuntu, so I think
>>> Debian's interests will be well cared for. However, I want to make sure
>>> you, the mysql interested folks involved with Debian, have a chance
>>> to offer any opinions you have. We will have Oracle and MontyProgram
>>> employees in attendance, so this is a nice chance to give frank and 
>>> honest
>>> feedback and hear the actual reasoning behind what Ubuntu ends up 
>>> doing.
>>> If any of you won't be able to attend or listen in remotely, please
>>> forward me any of your thoughts and I will make sure they are 
>>> presented.
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