[debian-mysql] Bug#793316: Bug#793316: transition: mysql-5.6

[Jonathan Wiltshire]

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 11:11:12AM +0100, Robie Basak wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 11:03:28PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> > > The wish of the release team and security team has been to keep just
> > > one MySQL variant. If such a decision is made, it must be made above
> > > the pkg-mysql-maint team as the team will never be able to agree which
> > > favourite is the best one.
> > 
> > Soo.... shall I just decide we're shipping Maria then?
> 
> Please, let's bring this to a conclusion. Right now, it seems to me that
> every time something related to MySQL comes up, this happens:
> 
> You: I thought we were switching to MariaDB?
> Us: No, our decision is to ship both.
> You: We don't want to ship both.

That's not *actually* what I said, but never mind.

> This isn't helping us make progress.
> 
> As far as I can see, these are the options:
> 
> 1) We carry and ship both, which I believe is the preference of the
> Debian MySQL Maintainers team by default since we do not agree to any
> other option. We have representatives from both sides who are working
> together and putting in the work to make this work technically.
> 
> 2a) We carry both in unstable, but only MySQL in testing.
> 
> 2b) We carry both in unstable, but only MariaDB in testing.
> 
> 3a) We drop MariaDB completely, keeping only MySQL in unstable and
> testing.
> 
> 3b) We drop MySQL completely, keeping only MariaDB in unstable and
> testing.
> 
> The Debian MySQL Maintainers team is prepared to do option 1, but it
> seems you are not. I do not consider any of the other options to be
> acceptable.
> 
> All the other options involve picking one over the other. If you insist
> on not picking option 1, I ask that you make a considered choice, ask
> questions of each variant as you need, pick one, and explain your
> reasons (I presume that option 2 vs 3 isn't relevant to you, but you can
> still pick between a and b).
> 
> I suspect that if you don't pick option 1 then we will be at a stalemate
> and will need to refer this to tech-ctte, but this way they will have
> some material to start with.

Without wanting to point fingers, a significant source of opposition to
shipping more than one variant is the security team (with, IMO, fairly good
reasoning). In general the release team respects the wishes of the security
team since they end up taking care of stable security for the next few
years.

I intend to table some discussion at the next opportunity, probably an IRC
meeting next week, which I hope will begin to get the wheels oiled a little
more. I will see if we cannot put together some thoughts around your
proposals above.



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