[Pkg-nagios-devel] Re: Bug#341748: ITP: nagios2 -- A host/service/network monitoring and management system

[Sean Finney]

hey marc,

On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 05:58:37PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> [Feel free to answer this e-mail on nagios-devel, nothing private in
> here]

doing so now :)

> On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 05:23:09PM -0500, Sean Finney wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 07:02:02PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> > > Done. The notification to the mailing list is already set up (one
> > > cannot configure the PTS if the package is not yet in Debian).
> > 
> > cool.  so for clarity, we have:
> > 
> > svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-nagios/nagios2/{trunk,branches,tags}
> > 
> > right?
> 
> Yes, and loaded with what we had in the CVS subdir, including history.

ah, very nice.

> > > However, the resulting packages don't seem to be installable, since
> > > nagios2-common conflicts with nagios-text, which nagios2 provides. I
> > > will fix that tonight, but you might want to inspect the svn
> > > repository before.
> > 
> > ah, yes.  i suppose that should be
> > 
> > nagios2-common: depends on nagios2, conflicts/replaces nagios-common
> > nagios2: conflicts/replaces nagios-text
> > 
> > or something like that.  the idea is that room is left for starting
> > a transition over from nagios-text (though not necessarily -mysql
> > and -pgsql, because nagios2 doesn't have rdbms support without
> > some external add-on module which may or may not yet exist afaik).
> 
> How about allowing nagios and nagios2 to completly co-exist?

let's just say i'm very skeptical of the benefits of doing so,
especially given the limited resources (maintainer-power) available.

i have no problem with them co-existing (in the archive) for some period
of time, but given the fact that upstream will probably pull the plug
on 1.x before etch is out, i'd rather not get stuck maintaining it for
the long haul if at all possible.  nagios ages much better than some
of the other web applications i've seen, but still...

but co-existing installed on the same system just doesn't seem to get
anyone anything.  re-using the same configuration files, plugins, and
scripts, sure, that would be great... but otherwise, i'd like to
see some rationale for why.

> > i'll send something to pkg-nagios-devel later tonight about all of this.
> 
> I didn't see anything yet.

really?  i promise i sent something... the list archives agree with me :)


	sean

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