hi andrew, this is regarding the bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=498430 a temporary fix is to use: TerminateServer=true in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc. this restarts xserver after every session and avoids the crash. -- regards Ashutosh Mahajan http://coral.ie.lehigh.edu/~asm4