[Pkg-owncloud-maintainers] Bug#816376: Bug#816376: Unfit upstream

[Jos Poortvliet]

On Monday, March 7, 2016 5:43:20 PM AMT Sébastien Villemot wrote:
> Dear David,
> 
> First, let me thank you for the work that you put into packaging
> owncloud for Debian, it is really appreciated.
> 
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 07:07:10 -0400 David =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9vot?= <taffit at debian.org> wrote:
> 
> > Upstream doesn’t wish to see their software in Debian anymore. Unless
> > the situation changes in the next few months, owncloud will not be part
> > of Stretch.
> 
> Given that owncloud is such a useful and important package, and that
> there is currently no credible alternative, this is really sad news, and
> I am wondering whether this outcome could be avoided.
> 
> If I understand correctly, your decision is essentially based on social
> issues (upstream hostile to Debian packaging), coupled to some technical
> aspects (complex upgrade paths).

See my last email here - we'd love to have ownCloud included in Debian but obviously only if it provides a good experience to users. Right now, it seems that that is hard to do within the framework Debian provides.

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-owncloud-maintainers/2016-March/002899.html

The situation is rather sad and frustrating as users who decided to trust the Debian developers and took their packages over ownCloud's provided packages are now stuck on a version which can't trivially be upgraded to either our upstream version or anything else. We would love to find a solution for them - as I've said many times, our main concern is the end users, rather than politics, rules or anything else.

Thanks for caring about this,
Jos

> At first glance, this does not seem to prevent the package from staying
> in Debian. Maybe this just means that the package needs a new
> maintainer, who is willing to handle the tough interaction with upstream
> and dealing with the technical issues (note that I am not applying for
> the job).
> 
> You are certainly in a better position than me to ascertain whether the
> package can stay in Debian or not, but I think that it would be useful
> if you could give a little more background on the issues that you
> encountered. And, if you think it makes sense to orphan the package,
> that would help prospective new maintainers in making the decision to
> adopt the package or not.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 

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