[Pkg-owncloud-maintainers] Bug#816376: Bug#816376: Unfit upstream

Jos Poortvliet jos at owncloud.com
Tue Mar 8 07:03:28 UTC 2016

On Monday, March 7, 2016 5:43:20 PM AMT Sébastien Villemot wrote:
> Dear David,
> First, let me thank you for the work that you put into packaging
> owncloud for Debian, it is really appreciated.
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 07:07:10 -0400 David =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pr=E9vot?= <taffit at debian.org> wrote:
> > Upstream doesn’t wish to see their software in Debian anymore. Unless
> > the situation changes in the next few months, owncloud will not be part
> > of Stretch.
> Given that owncloud is such a useful and important package, and that
> there is currently no credible alternative, this is really sad news, and
> I am wondering whether this outcome could be avoided.
> If I understand correctly, your decision is essentially based on social
> issues (upstream hostile to Debian packaging), coupled to some technical
> aspects (complex upgrade paths).

See my last email here - we'd love to have ownCloud included in Debian but obviously only if it provides a good experience to users. Right now, it seems that that is hard to do within the framework Debian provides.


The situation is rather sad and frustrating as users who decided to trust the Debian developers and took their packages over ownCloud's provided packages are now stuck on a version which can't trivially be upgraded to either our upstream version or anything else. We would love to find a solution for them - as I've said many times, our main concern is the end users, rather than politics, rules or anything else.

Thanks for caring about this,

> At first glance, this does not seem to prevent the package from staying
> in Debian. Maybe this just means that the package needs a new
> maintainer, who is willing to handle the tough interaction with upstream
> and dealing with the technical issues (note that I am not applying for
> the job).
> You are certainly in a better position than me to ascertain whether the
> package can stay in Debian or not, but I think that it would be useful
> if you could give a little more background on the issues that you
> encountered. And, if you think it makes sense to orphan the package,
> that would help prospective new maintainers in making the decision to
> adopt the package or not.
> Cheers,

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