[Pkg-owncloud-maintainers] [OwnCloud-Packaging] Changelog, version tracking, distro notes

Frank Karlitschek frank at owncloud.com
Sun Jun 10 19:05:52 UTC 2012

On 06.06.2012, at 17:02, Paul van Tilburg <paulvt at debian.org> wrote:

> Hi all,

Hi Paul,

> I wanted to address a few issues.  But before that, I wanted to say that
> I really appreciate the existence of this list and the fact that
> upstream takes time to deal with the wishes of distributions.
> I can assure you, this is not always the case.

Just let us know what we can do to make your life easier.

> Changelog
> ---------
> I wonder if the Changelog, now only publicly reachable via the main
> website, could be included in the upcoming release tarballs?  It would
> be greatly appreciated. :)

I included it in the 4.0.2 tar file. The email will come in a few minutes.

> Release watch
> -------------
> Another matter is that Debian employs a watch system to track new
> upstream.
> Firstly, although the "ownCloud for Debian" team surely tracks new
> releases, the information is used in a QA-context and to warn us if we
> are slacking as a team.  :)
> Secondly, the watch systems allows automatic downloading of the release
> tarball and repacking if necessary.  At the moment we repack the
> original tarball by removing 3rdparty/timepicker/css/include as it
> contains minified, sourceless JavaScript libs that do not seem to be
> used by ownCloud (that is, after removal the time picker still works
> fine). 
> Currently, the watch does not work, as there is no page that lists
> release tarballs.  Access to http://owncloud.org/releases/ is forbidden,
> and http://owncloud.org/support/download/ uses a redirect URL to the
> tarball, thus hiding the version.  I wonder if a list of releases
> could be made publicly visible somewhere for convenience, given that
> Gitorious already offers this in a more VCS-style fashion anyway.
> I think it might be worthwhile to have it include tarballs of older
> releases as well, however, one might consider that that is irrelevant
> nowadays given Gitorious and the like.

I created this page:

Is this O.K. with you?

> Distro Notes
> ------------
> Now that ownCloud 4.0.1 is available in Debian unstable and soon in
> Wheezy, later to be the new Debian stable release, I wonder if someone
> could update the "Distro Notes" page [1] to also list Debian. 
> If any explanatory text is needed, for example explaining how to use
> different DB backends, we would be happy to help out.  Some text is
> already present in [2].  I've noted that the "Install" page [3] says
> something about running "apt-get install <things>", which is rather
> distro-specific (Debian/Ubuntu/Mint/…).  Maybe this stuff also needs to
> be moved to the "Distro Notes" page, updated, and the "Install" page
> should just explain what to install if you bypass the distribution?
> Just my 2 cents, though.
> 1: http://owncloud.org/support/download/
> 2: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-owncloud/owncloud.git;a=blob;f=debian/owncloud.README.Debian

Good point. We have to redo this page anyways. 

Thanks a lot.


> Cheers,
> Paul
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