[Pkg-owncloud-maintainers] owncloud 7.0.0 in wheezy-backports: no webodf support?

[Mike Gabriel]

Hi Martin, David, Jason + Frank,

top posting what this is about... For details, see below...

@Jason+Frank, this thread discusses the status of the dojo package  
that could be more up-to-date then it currently is in Debian.

As you three are maintainer/uploader of that package, I'd be happy to  
receive feedback from you about current activity on the dojo  
packaging. A new upstream version has been available for a while...  
and it would be great to get a newer version into Jessie before the  
freeze window closes.

TL;DR; for the below thread... owncloud 7.x provides a WebODF feature  
(editing ODF documents TTW in an owncloud instance). This feature  
works if owncloud is built against a recent dojo upstream version.  
However, dojo in Debian got stuck at 1.7.2 and has not been updated  
since 2012.

On  Fr 15 Aug 2014 12:08:07 CEST, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

> Am Freitag, 15. August 2014, 09:26:30 schrieb Mike Gabriel:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> On  Mi 13 Aug 2014 20:11:46 CEST, David Prévot wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >> On  Mo 11 Aug 2014 09:25:21 CEST, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>> >>
>> >> @David: can you give feedback on this? Is webodf working in the
>> >> unstable package of owncloud?
>> >
>> > Yes, it?s working in unstable and in testing, and is a known issue of the
>> > backports package.
>> >
>> > CCing an exchange we had three months ago on #debian-owncloud:
>> >
>> > 15:58 < taffit> sunweaver: if the documents stuff doesn?t work, the
>> > current trick is to build owncloud with a recent dojo, I can make the one
>> > I use available if you wish.
>> > 15:59 < sunweaver> taffit: what do you mean by documents stuff? Viewing
>> > libreoffice docs and others?
>> > 16:00 < taffit> editing odt
>> > 16:00 < sunweaver> ah right...
>> > 16:00 < sunweaver> and "make the one I use available" means?
>> > 16:00 < sunweaver> Will you upload it to wheezy-bpo?
>> > 16:00 < taffit> the next dojo version that is currently WIP, not yet
>> > uploaded to debian
>> > 16:01 < sunweaver> I just saw...
>> > 16:01 < taffit> (I use a more recent dojo version to build owncloud, so it
>> > works with the dojo version currently in the archive)
>> > 16:01 < sunweaver> will that make sense for unstable?
>> > 16:02 < taffit> the headache is that the documents app doesn?t work with
>> > the more recent dojo version?
>> > 16:02 < sunweaver> you are confusing me...
>> > 16:02 < sunweaver> I though it is needed for the docuemnt stuff...
>> > 16:02 < sunweaver> s/though/thought/
>> > 16:02 < taffit> It?s confusing indeed, let me retry to explain
>> > 16:05 < taffit> In order to make it work with the dojo version currently
>> > in Debian, I *build* the documents app (thus owncloud) with a more recent
>> > dojo version. This more recent dojo version is not yet fully functionnal,
>> > and can?t be used to make the documents app work :/
>> > 16:06 < taffit> An alternative would be to use the minified JavaScript as
>> > provided in the tarball, but that seems even uglier to me.
>> > 16:07 < sunweaver> taffit: man that's a hack!!!
>> > 16:08 < sunweaver> shouldn't we provide something more reproducible?
>> > [?]
>> > 16:10 < taffit> sunweaver: Yay? I?ve been stuck a long time trying various
>> > stuff before being able to make it work. Now that I found this piece of
>> > black magic, I?m a bit relieve, but would highly prefer a proper system.
>> > 16:11 < taffit> Help would be highly welcome here, I?m not really a
>> > JavaScript guy.
>> > 16:11 < taffit> s/not really/really not/ ;)
>> > 16:14 < sunweaver> taffit: me neither...
>> > 16:15 < sunweaver> have you pinged kapouer? Or this new talent on the
>> > pkg-javascript list... What's his name...?
>> > 16:16 < sunweaver> l3on is his name...
>> > 16:18 < sunweaver> taffit: owncloud 6.0.3 has been upload to wheezy-bpo.
>> > 16:20  * taffit will get in touch with the pkg-javascript team as soon as
>> > I manage to explain the problem ;)
>>
>> Yes, I remember that discussion. I hoped that this has been solved
>> meanwhile.
>>
>> To be double-sure: were saying that the uploaded owncloud package has
>> been built with a build-chain that contains software outside of Debian?
>
> Wow, that sounds like quite some hack. Maybe better to go without WebODF
> support at least in wheezy-backports unless stuff required for it is  
> available
> in a quality that allows it to be used for building *and* using the documents
> app. Is upstream aware of this issue?
>
> Thanks,

@Martin: The issue rather seems to be a Debian issue. The dojo package  
in Debian hasn't at least been updated since wheezy got out. The  
debian/changelog date goes back to "Mon, 20 Feb 2012 16:14:59 -0500".

There is a bug that has started a discussion on upgrading but without  
results so far ([1]).

Thus, this package feels quite unmaintained at the moment, however, it  
would be helpful to get a newer upstream version into unstable to get  
WebODF support working in owncloud.

I hope Jason or Frank can give feedback and maybe possibly hand over  
the dojo package to the Javascript or the Owncloud packaging team.

Mike

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/706696
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