[Pkg-pascal-devel] MS Windows HtmlHelp file in lazarus

Abou Al Montacir abou.almontacir at sfr.fr
Fri Dec 18 19:47:27 UTC 2015

Hi Paul

On Fri, 2015-12-18 at 19:12 +0100, Paul Gevers wrote:
> Hi all,
> So today I downloaded the new version of Lazarus (1.6RC1). It seems to
> build just fine, without changes. My question from below still stands.
> My proposal is to drop the chm file, unless somebody objects (Abou?).
Yes I had a small concern: Pressing F1 on any identifier should continue to
bring help.
I tested it and seems HTML docs works well so maybe we can drop it.
> Paul
> On 21-11-15 13:03, Paul Gevers wrote:
> > 
> > Yet another reproducibility issue question. Lazarus doesn't build
> > reproducible, because one of the files we build (with tools from fpc) is
> > the lcl.chm file which is documentation in MS Windows HtmlHelp format.
> > My question is, is this the preferred format in the Lazarus IDE? If not,
> > I think it is best to stop shipping it in the Debian package as the
> > format is "non-native".
> > 

For me the fact that it is non  native is not a problem. The only problem is the
date issue.
> > 
> > I talked to pabs about this on IRC today (he even wrote the
> > reverse-engineered spec of the format) and he thought that even on
> > Windows this format is deprecated.
> > 

I personally like that format as it compacts the size of help files. As long as
there are viewers and compilers for it I don't consider it depreciated.
However maybe this is a bit nostalgic from my side.
> > 
> > The alternative is to patch the source in fpc to honor SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH
> > (also) for chm creation, but currently the only package that builds chm
> > files with that tool is Lazarus.
> > 

This does not mean that other users do not use this tool and if it happens that
one of these tools will end in Debian we will ask us the same question again.
> > 
> > So what do we think is best, also effort and maintainable wise? I tend
> > to drop the file.
> > 

I tend to fix a program that we are shipping especially that we know hos to do
I can have a trial this WE
Abou Al Montacir

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