Sorry, a bit rushed: Lat/long I used was -37.81 144.963169 which is somewhere in Melbourne. Now= 2012-11-19T14:43:27 Rise: 2012-11-18T18:57:00 Set: 2012-11-19T09:14:00 epoch-> 1353265020 1353316440 and I omitted a 'not'. I've *not* tested in any generalised way. Dick