[request-tracker-maintainers] Bug#981942: Bug#981942: request-tracker4: Dependency on rsyslog | system-log-daemon prevents system with only journald

[Florian Lohoff]

On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 07:57:13PM +0000, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 10:35:49AM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote:
> > Hi,
> > the dependency on
> > 
> > 	rsyslog | system-log-daemon
> > 
> > prevents the removal of rsyslog for a pure systemd(-journald) system 
> > as systemd does not provide system-log-daemon.
> > 
> > I am not that confident but wouldnt it be a valid requirement to run
> > request-tracker WITHOUT logging? Could this dependency not be
> > dropped completely?
> 
> I don't recommend running without logging. Is there actually
> a problem with having syslog installed? I mean, it's a standard logging
> interface I'd expect to see on any Debian server setup and if systemd
> doesn't provide it when users expect it, that's a flaw on the systemd
> side.

We'd like to get rid of legacy logging into individual files with
rsyslog so typically our automatism purges rsyslogd on installations and
we are pretty happy with journald. This fell apart when i set up new
request-tracker installations.

And i dont recommend running without logging aswell but there may be
valid reasons to do so - Running anonymous tickets systems via tor or
stuff - and you dont want to collect information you ultimately dont
need.

> RT can be configured to run with file based logging, but that's not the
> default. We could probably downgrade to Recommends if there was a real
> reason to.

Logging is a users choice - currently there is no choice with
request-tracker - you are forced to install rsyslogd or the like.

Flo
-- 
Florian Lohoff                                                     f at zz.de
"Autoritaetsduselei ist der groesste Feind der Wahrheit" - Albert Einstein
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