[DRE-maint] pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@ -> debian-ruby@?

Vincent Fourmond fourmond at debian.org
Mon Aug 3 19:23:22 UTC 2009


Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Vincent Fourmond dijo [Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 10:26:14PM +0200]:
>>> I think that we should switch to using only debian-ruby@ for everything
>>> except commit logs (which go to pkg-ruby-extras-commits@). This matches
>>> what the perl team does, and it seems to be totally bearable even for
>>> bigger teams.
> Umm… That is precisely what Lucas is suggesting :-} 
> 
> The current situation is that we have two lists (debian-ruby at lists.d.o
> and pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers at lists.alioth.d.o). The first list is
> for «Discussion of issues related to Ruby on Debian systems with a
> stress on packaging standards. Therefore relevant for maintainers of
> Ruby related packages.»¹. The second one is for «Maintainers of the
> Debian Ruby Extras packages». There is a clear overlap here, as I have
> often seen pkg-ruby-extras discussions in the second, but those
> discussions are quite relevant to Ruby packaging maintainers outside
> our group. Even more, I realized I was not even subscribed to the
> first one!

  Hmmm. No. Unless I completely misunderstood Lucas's post (which is
very possible, I have basic understanding problems ;-)...), what Lucas
proposes is to drop pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers altogether. To this I
strongly object.

  See the quotation from <20090729082834.GC28178 at xanadu.blop.info>

Lucas's initial proposition:
> The ruby-extras team currently uses pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers as
> Maintainer: or Uploaders:. I find it annoying to have two Debian/Ruby
> lists, which often requires adding Ccs between the list.
> 
> I think that we should switch to using only debian-ruby@ for everything
> except commit logs (which go to pkg-ruby-extras-commits@). This matches
> what the perl team does, and it seems to be totally bearable even for
> bigger teams.

  Unless I'm very wrong, that means dropping pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers
? Could you clarify, please, Lucas, if you're around ?


> So, basically, we are suggesting moving most, if not all, human
> interaction to debian-ruby (which is also way easier on the eyes), and
> leave the pkg-ruby-extras group one for dak announcement and bug
> reports. Of course, the group members are expected to be in both, but
> they can be sent to different folders - and we will not get so lost
> regarding human discussions (which matter most).

  For me, this is perfect.

  The main problem is the following: sometime users write directly to
pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers, and they expect an answer. Maybe a proper
footer to the list would help ?

  Cheers,

	Vincent

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