[DRE-maint] Bug#448639: Taking this to the CTTE?

Lucas Nussbaum lucas at lucas-nussbaum.net
Mon Aug 30 20:45:31 UTC 2010


On 30/08/10 at 19:59 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> ]] Lucas Nussbaum 
> | On 28/08/10 at 21:31 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> | > Hi Daigo,
> | > 
> | > using /var/lib/gems is really quite annoying, and I have meant to write
> | > something along the lines of what Clint Byrum wrote a few messages ago.
> | > Sure, using /usr/local isn't ideal, but that's a choice that's up to the
> | > local system administrator; what you're effectively doing is just
> | > forcing people to jump through a hoop and having to add
> | > /var/lib/gems/bin to the default path, which is really quite silly.  The
> | > lack of consistency with what CPAN does is also annoying as we're making
> | > a distribution, not just packaging a bunch of software.
> | > 
> | > So, please, please change this.  If you don't want to change this, I'll
> | > take this to the CTTE so they can rule on this.
> | 
> | While I support the idea of using /usr/local (I even submitted this bug
> | back in 2007), I find it incredible that you threaten to take this to
> | the TC.
> 
> Threaten?  It's the place to take technical arguments that can't be
> resolved by discussion, and this has been a long-standing argument with
> little movement on either side.

Because nobody saw it as something that needed to be solved urgently?

> | There has been basically no activity on this bug between december 2007
> | and now. On August 26th, a Canonical employee restarts that discussion,
> | and two days later, another Canonical employee threatens to take it to
> | the TC?  Come on! Can't we have at least one week of peaceful discussion
> | before you light up the flames?
> 
> I left Canonical years ago, and I don't see why somebody's employment
> would be relevant at all.  I'm, as you can see, writing from my personal
> email address.

OK, I was mistaken on that. Still, I don't think that you should jump in
a thread without really having made any effort to be convincing
yourself, and threaten to appeal the TC. If someone should make that
move, it should be me (as the original bug reporter), or Clint, since he
provided a good rationale and "reopened" the issue. But I hope that none
of us will make that move before we have left that discussion last for
at least a couple weeks.

Lucas






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