[DRE-maint] Bug#448639: Taking this to the CTTE?

[Clint Byrum]

On Aug 30, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:

> On 28/08/10 at 21:31 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>> Hi Daigo,
>> 
>> using /var/lib/gems is really quite annoying, and I have meant to write
>> something along the lines of what Clint Byrum wrote a few messages ago.
>> Sure, using /usr/local isn't ideal, but that's a choice that's up to the
>> local system administrator; what you're effectively doing is just
>> forcing people to jump through a hoop and having to add
>> /var/lib/gems/bin to the default path, which is really quite silly.  The
>> lack of consistency with what CPAN does is also annoying as we're making
>> a distribution, not just packaging a bunch of software.
>> 
>> So, please, please change this.  If you don't want to change this, I'll
>> take this to the CTTE so they can rule on this.
> 
> While I support the idea of using /usr/local (I even submitted this bug
> back in 2007), I find it incredible that you threaten to take this to
> the TC.
> 

Agreed Lucas, Daigo has done his best and remained open to this discussion,
so I hope we can all agree to take this off the table.

> There has been basically no activity on this bug between december 2007
> and now. On August 26th, a Canonical employee restarts that discussion,
> and two days later, another Canonical employee threatens to take it to
> the TC?  Come on! Can't we have at least one week of peaceful discussion
> before you light up the flames?
> 

One correction, I believe Tollef left Canonical in 2008. I know I just met
him for the first time in June, and he was no longer with the company at
that time.

> Also, I don't see anything in the bug report about the way you expect
> the transition from /var/lib to /usr/local to happen. It would be great
> to investigate this and propose something in the form of a patch if this
> issue has suddenly become so urgent for you.
> 

I'd like to see us get through the theoretical and philosophical decision
before we start getting deep into any implementation, as I think that 
would be getting way ahead of ourselves. However, I think 
/var/lib/gems/$ruby_version should simply remain in ruby's path for this
version, and at some point, a "Breaks:" can be added when we remove that.