[DRE-maint] unicorn: native systemd service

[Hleb Valoshka]

On 6/25/15, Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob at debian.org> wrote:

> Not sure... I know systemd can invoke init.d script but only standard
> {start|
> stop|restart|status} functions and only with the absence of native .service
> file.

So if it still supports sysv scripts and native services does not
provide additional functions why to add useless native support which
breaks enhanced sysv features?


> interface to services is quite intentional. Frankly it is annoying when
> init.d
> script does too much but we can avoid this by offering an additional utility
> to do soft restart and you can call it from init.d script as well if you
> wish.

WE DO NOT NEED ADDITIONAL UTILITIES. DIXI. Init script is well known
interface between user and daemon. No need to break with additional
utilities.


> Shell script could be common and independent from init system. It should be
> easier to test and debug as well...

I don't think that unicornctl upgrade is more simple that invoke-rc.d
unicorn upgrade.

> You have to get over it. It was debated enough and Technical Committee has
> decided. You still can use init.d if you wish, can you?

I don't want somebody to make sysv useless, cutting away features of
init scripts just because redhat's crapd does not supports them (but
supports a lot of useless crap).

>> , it quite similar to the last
>> "marriage" in Chechnya (old police bastard and young girl), so I don't
>> want to support this.
> I do not know this story but from the way you've described it I'm sure that

I suppose that you are from RF, according to your surname. It doesn't
matter anyway.

> your analogy is very inaccurate and unfair. I'm worried about such attitude
> of
> yours. There are things we may not like. For instance I do not like GNOME
> (so
> naturally I do not use it) but I don't need to demonise it (e.g. declare it
> "Evil" etc.) to justify my preference.

SW can't be evil and I didn't call crapd as such. Only people can be,
and those who made crapd default in Debian are definitely made evil
thing to Debian and Free Software community.

> Let's not go there. As maintainer you can't care only about those users who
> happened to be using Unicorn on your favourite init system. That kind
> hostility is harmful. Please do not discriminate.

Your last words sounds like manipulation.