[DRE-maint] Bug#972605: jekyll: Please update to new 4.x branch

[calumlikesapplepie at gmail.com]

On Wed, 2020-10-21 at 15:12 +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 20.10.2020, 23:33 -0400 schrieb Calum McConnell:
> 
> > Jekyll upstream has been concentrating on a new 4.x release branch
> > for the
> > past year.  It provides a significant set of new features that I
> > use, and it
> > would be great if it could be included in debian.
> > 
> > I assume you know all of that already, since 3.9 released after
> > 4.0, but I
> > was wondering what the rationale was for sticking with the 3.x
> > branch.
> 
> It is very stable and well tested. Also not all plugins had been
> ported to
> Jekyll 4 at the beginning of the year (not sure about the current
> state).
> Further it would make backporting to current stable a lot more
> complicated.
> I'm not aware of any ground-breaking changes. What features are you
> referring to?

Its not exactly ground-breaking (I might have exaggerated
'significant'), but the caching system is really handy.  I like to
iterate rapidly, and a cache is really, really helpful for that: it
halves build times.

Also, there a bunch of little changes, such as relative-url, that I
appreciate.  The sort of changes that a user might try to use, and then
be confused as to why they don't work.

The biggest reason, though, is that 3.9 is like Python 2.7: it's
probably the last release of the series.  According to rubygems, 3.9.0
has a third the downloads of 4.1.1, and a sixth of 4.0.0: its clear
people are moving up to the next version, and will eventually need to
do so if they want to keep getting support for plugins.  I believe
there are already some 4.0-only plugins.

In short, we probably ought to have it in Bullseye before we release.

> The 4.x series will be uploaded to experimental eventually. But I'm
> hesitant to upload it to unstable just now.

Okay: fair enough.  But the 4.0 branch is about a year old, and I
haven't really felt any major issues with it.  I think most plugins
have upgraded by now:

Thanks for considering. Let's keep this bug open, so that you don't get
another person reporting.
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