[Pkg-rust-maintainers] Rust Packages, BoF meeting notes

[Geert Stappers]

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 05:03:24PM +0100, Ximin Luo wrote:
> Sean Whitton:
> > Hello Ximin,
> >
> > On Mon 19 Oct 2020 at 08:34pm +01, Ximin Luo wrote:
> >
> >> I seem to remember that we did some calculations and the sizes are
> >> not significantly affected by these empty packages. For every empty
> >> rust package, there is >1 non-empty rust package. A 50% metadata
> >> bloat of what is probably ~2-3% of the whole Debian archive is not
> >> a big deal, and bandwidth is constantly getting cheaper. 5G and/or
> >> fiber is coming to a postcode near you within the next few years
> >> I am sure.
> >
> > We have lots of users in various parts of the world with much worse
> > Internet connections than the average DD.  It would be good to
> > continue to support those users where we can.
> >
>
> I believe my proposal supports those users just fine. Let's crunch
> some numbers.
>
> 1. Automatically passing these empty rust packages (as I suggest)
>    might slow down every Debian user perhaps by O(1 second).
> 2. Holding these empty rust packages slows down every user of Debian
>    rust packages perhaps by O(several weeks).
> 3. Blocking these empty rust packages completely, slows down every user
>    of Debian rust packages perhaps by O(several months) or even longer.
>
> There are 604800 seconds in a week.
>
> The current situation wastes more time for users overall, unless you
> believe that:
>
> - {Debian users} outnumber {users of Debian rust packages} by a factor
>   of 604800 to 1, or
> - users of Debian rust packages are much more likely to have faster
>   internet connections, and this difference in probabilities
>   outweighs Debian users by a factor of 604800 to 1.
>
> neither of which seem like reasonable beliefs to me.


FWIW   I miss in the equation the burden of handling empty packages.


Preventing that empty packages get created avoids that resources are
misspend on handling those packages.



Regards
Geert Stappers
DD
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