[Pkg-samba-maint] samba 3 and 4 in parallel in unstable?

Andrew Bartlett abartlet at samba.org
Sun Jan 15 08:05:38 UTC 2006

On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 08:50 +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > > samba 4 fails to install. Note that this is an upgrade from samba 3.
> > 
> > Thanks for reporting this.  The issue is quite simple:  because the
> > samba3 upgrade isn't part of the testsuite, I overlooked the changes I
> > made to other js routines, and broke it.
> > 
> > I don't see any reason why we can't ship with some test data, and put
> > this into 'make test', and I'll also fix the scripts.
> > 
> > Thanks for the report!
> This brings me a suggestion, at least to be discussed.
> Steinar and Jeroen have currently built experimental samba4 packages
> as "samba" packages and thus can only upload them in experimental.
> This gives a quite low exposure to these packages as recent Debian
> history has shown (there has been some discussion about the number of
> people using experimental which has proven to be low quite often).
> Why not create samba4* packages and then upload them in unstable in
> parallel with samba* packages?

Would these packages be expected to install in parallel, or just both
exist in the same distribution?  

> I'm pretty sure this would give more exposure to samba4 and thus
> improve the input for the Samba Team in the preparation of the Samba4
> release.

Exposure is good.  However, for the moment I'm happy with with this
being in experimental for the moment.  We still consider Samba4 to be
experimental.  (We don't have the tech preview yet! :-)

> Given the release schedule of Debian, I doubt we could handle a
> transition in Etch and I'm even pretty sure that, even is samba4 is
> out before the end of the year, we woul dhave users requesting us to
> keep samba3 in Debian.

Yes, I expect to see demand for both Samba3 and Samba4 for a long time
into the future.  I doubt we will be able to manage a 'seamless' upgrade
like we did for 2.2->3.0 in the short term.

Andrew Bartlett

Andrew Bartlett                                http://samba.org/~abartlet/
Authentication Developer, Samba Team           http://samba.org
Student Network Administrator, Hawker College  http://hawkerc.net
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