[Pkg-samba-maint] personalized and administrative bugzilla accounts

[Christian PERRIER]

Quoting Björn JACKE (bj at SerNet.DE):
> Hi Christian,
> 
> On 2012-05-09 at 22:08 +0200 Christian PERRIER sent off:
> > There are two reasons for us to use this method:
> > - bugs opened by the team address can then be manipulated by any
> > member of the packaging team (IIRC, some actions can only be done by
> > the bug submitter...or maybe also by some ppl with specific privileges)
> 
> you should be able to manipulate everything even if you are logged in with your
> personal account, can't you? If not, what are you *really* missing here?

Hmm,let's assume that Steve Langasek opens a bug with his account but
under the umbrella of the Debian pkg maintainers, forwarding something
we got in Debian BTS.

Over the years, Steve vanishes and I'm alone maintaining the package
(this is purely a theoretical situation, Steve..:-)). I finally find
that the bug was not really relevant (again theoretical situation,
Steve's BR are always relevant) and I don't want to bother you
guys with it. Can I really close it myself, not being the bug reporter
and not having specific privileges in Bugzilla?

> > - automated mails (including comments) are then directed to the
> > package maintenance list and not to our individual addresses. This is
> > probably the most important point. Package maintenance teams are not
> > guaranteed to always have the same  members over time and it seems to
> > be a good idea that comments for a bug reported by a team member
> > several years ago are automatically directed and seen by other team
> > members, even if the original submitter is MIA in any way
> 
> all of you can open bugs as "private" persons, if you open bugs as package
> maintainers, why don't you just add pkg-samba-maint at lists.alioth.debian.org to
> CC and this important point is solved straight forward. Except for highly
> security related bugs all bugs in our bugzilla are open so that bug visibility
> is also no reason to prefer the distribution account over the
> personalized one

Oh, if that's possible, yes. Can someone really add anybody (s)he
wants as CC to a bug report? That opens interesting spam
situations..:-)

The other argument is that we're likely to forget doing that, frankly
speaking..:)

> > - we are doing this for 3 years now..:-)
> 
> for this I have an answer: samba bugzilla and the bugzilla maintainers changed
> last year ;-).
> 
> Havin non-personalized accounts being actively used is just not nice. The fact
> that you don't see who talks to you is just one of the not so nice points.

Sure, point taken. This is why I try to mention who's talking in my
contributions...except when I forget..:-)

> > Of course, if there are other ways to achieve the same results, we
> > (speaking in name of the maintenance team) would be happy to use them.
> 
> the second main bugzilla maintainer is Lars. I couldn't be in Göttingen
> unfortunately but he is. Can you talk with him directly about this once more?
> I would still like to "disable" the distribution account as I really see no
> good reason for this being used actively.


Well, my main point is definitely that I don't want to bother you guys
too much. If you have concerns about this and even if it changes my
habits, I think I won't argue that much. Really, it's much more
important for me to keep the good interaction we have. And, anyway,
nowadays, I am mostly the only person using that "role" account.

So, really, as I don't want to be a hassle and the issue is not that
important, I'm OK if we close this role account.


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