[Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#674853: Bug#674853: winbind should depend on libpam-winbind and libnss-winbind for wheezy

Adrian Bunk bunk at stusta.de
Mon May 28 19:45:40 UTC 2012


On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 08:30:25PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
>...
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 08:48:54PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > Either not installing Recommends (which is a *global* setting in Debian) 
> > is considered a valid setup through all of Debian, or it is anyway 
> > considered broken. In the latter case there would be no reason against 
> > changing the Recommends to Depends...
> 
> I'm sorry that I have to quote policy to you:
> 
> | Recommends
> |
> |    This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency.
> |
> |    The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together
> |    with this one in all but unusual installations.
> 
> It's pretty clear that winbind can be used usefully without those two packages
> (e.g. for RADIUS auth against Active Directory), but that, as you said, they
> should be there in usual installations.  That's the definition of recommends.

I am not objecting against that in general.

What I am talking about is the special case of how to ensure that 
everyone who had these installed in squeeze (due to them being part
of winbind) will also have them installed in wheezy after upgrading.

Traditionally, when a package was split out of another package in 
Debian, there is a dependency until the next release to minimize
the risk of upgrade breakages.

It is clear that this is only a short-term dependency, and for wheezy+1 
the dependency will be demoted to a Suggests or Recommends.

Debian always had a reputation for working upgraded (e.g. think back to 
the libc5->libc6 transition), and IMHO it is important that Debian will
continue to do everything possible to avoid upgrade breakages.

> Kind regards
> Philipp Kern

cu
Adrian

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