[Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#532856: Bug#532856: Bug#532856: Bug#532856: closed by Mathieu Parent <math.parent at gmail.com> (Closing " umask settings overridden by Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) clients")

[Andrew Bartlett]

On Mon, 2018-07-02 at 01:14 +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 09:41:39AM +1200, Andrew Bartlett wrote:
> > > How does that make sense? If the option is called "do X", and fails to
> > > do X in some opaque circumstances, how is that not a bug? At the very
> > > very least, it needs to be explained somewhere. Last I checked, there
> > > was nothing in the smb.conf manual to indicate that any of this would
> > > happen. The existence of a chmod extension isn't even mentioned. (As I
> > > said before.)
> > > 
> > > On a more general note, I would recommend triaging user bug reports when you
> > > are available to actually try to understand what users are saying. Ignoring
> > > information provided and repeating the same question all over again is
> > > unhelpful at best.
> > 
> > Honestly, this really isn't the place.
> > 
> > While this goes against general Debian practice, these bug reports are
> > really not a good place to discuss general issues with Samba.  
> 
> It's unreasonable to have a Debian package that doesn't respect the
> universally common practices of the Debian bug tracking system.

Would you like to help?  We simply don't have the resources to manage
the tasks you suggest as well as the other elements of maintaining the
package (it is marked help wanted and has been for years).  

> The Debian social contract doesn't go into that much detail, to explicitly
> require keeping bugs open because they exist in practice -- but common sense
> and decades of precedent do.

I'm very sorry, we just don't have the resources to tend to non-
packaging bugs.  I'll let others argue as to if validated but upstream
bugs should be left open, but debatable configuration discussions have
no useful place here. 

Upstream (non-packaging) bugs filed here at best have to be copied into
Samba's bugzilla before any progress can be made and the lossy nature
of that just makes work for everyone. 

> Or is this some new thing that we're now doing, am I that much out of
> the loop?

I don't know, I just try and bail out the very hard-working Debian
packagers from the overwhelming load from time to time.

Finally, debates, even meta debates, about unsupported and ancient
Samba and MacOS versions are simply not productive.  

Andrew Bartlett

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Andrew Bartlett
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