[Pkg-systemd-maintainers] [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#717613: systemd-udevd failes to execute /lib/udev/socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event

[Michael Biebl]

Hi David,

thanks for your reply!

Am 30.01.2014 21:39, schrieb David Kalnischkies:
> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 05:51:44PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:

>> But in this case not kicking out hal forcefully leads to those
>> scary boot messages (and already quite a few duplicate bug reports).
>> Once this udev version enters stable, we might get even more.
>> So I'm also inclined to add the Breaks.
> 
> Usually I would suggest a transitional package in addition, but in this
> case I am going a bit further:
> The error message suggests to me (who has absolutely no idea what he is
> talking about through) that hal configures udev to send messages to hal.
> Why not just drop this configuration if it doesn't work anyway… ?

You are basically correct: This udev directive in
/lib/udev/rules.d/90-hal.rules set's up a socket which is feeding the
kernel events that udev receives into hal and hal then further processes
those events.

This mechanism has been removed from udev. So while hal was buggy and
unmaintained before, this is the last straw which makes hal completely
useless on Linux. So in a way, udev does indeed break hal. The issue is,
that there won't be a fixed version of hal.

We could drop that rules file from the hal package or even make hal an
empty dummy package (on Linux), so it would just be some dead weight on
the users system, but somehow I would prefer if on upgrades hal is
simply removed. Dropping that configuration won't magically make hal
work again.

@lct: If you run "apt-get autoremove", is hal uninstalled?

@David: If not, is there a way to find out, why autoremove is not
uninstalling hal?


Michael
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