[Pkg-systemd-maintainers] Bug#742322: Bug#742322: systemd: breaks other service / makes restart via /sbin/reboot impossible

Michael Stapelberg stapelberg at debian.org
Sat Mar 22 19:24:50 GMT 2014


Hi coldtobi,

coldtobi <tobi at coldtobi.de> writes:
> Is this the way systemd people generally respond to problem reports? Just
> closing bugs and hide (possible) problems? I'm very disappointed. You know, in
> Debian we do not hide problems.
Typically I wouldn’t even respond to this, but your last sentence
strikes me as pretty arrogant¹, and the second sentence is a baseless
accusation, so here goes:

Closing a bug is not “hiding problems”. We (the systemd maintainers in
Debian) generally tend to close bugs early (and reopen on demand) to
keep the amount of bugs manageable. We think this is good for us, since
it makes our work possible in the first place, it’s good for new
contributors who see a well-tended buglist and it’s good for users who
don’t have to scroll through pages of non-issues, wishlist items that
noone will ever fix and other reports like that.

IMO, the Debian bugtracker severely lacks a good way of
displaying/filtering bugs. In case we had that, I wouldn’t have any
problem with leaving bugs like this open forever.

Also, I’d like to point out that we actually _do_ respond in the
first place, and that within one hour (!) of your report. That’s a
kick-ass response time, and having responses at all is something that
enough other Debian packages don’t even achieve, unfortunately.

① You are trying to lecture us about how Debian works, while there is no
  agreed-upon set of rules that backs up your particular interpretation
  of how Debian should work. This comes across as you imposing your
  will onto us.

-- 
Best regards,
Michael




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