Bug#717388: Volunteers needed to work on enabling persistent journal

Andreas Henriksson andreas at fatal.se
Thu Feb 15 17:16:20 GMT 2018


On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 09:07:21AM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 05:14:03PM +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
[...]
> > - (How to handle updates? Consensus seemed to be towards no change on
> >    updates.)
> 
> I'm interested in helping with this.
> 
> I think we should *always* provide /var/log/journal, and continue to
> configure systemd to not use the persistent journal by default rather
> than autodetecting via the existence of /var/log/journal; that way, we
[...]

Interesting proposal, but how do we handle upgrades in this case?

I'm thinking about the (possibly small) group of people who has
manually uninstalled (r)syslog and created the directory according
to /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian.gz instructions (and rely on
autodetection). Maybe a NEWS.Debian entry is enough to tell them
they now need to install the package that enables persistant journal,
but at the same time there will be those who do not pay enough attention
and ends up with no logging what so ever after an upgrade which makes
me a bit worried....

Regards,
Andreas Henriksson




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