[Pkg-sysvinit-devel] BROKEN MTA ON ALIOTH Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

Marco d'Itri md at Linux.IT
Sat Dec 31 11:07:30 UTC 2005


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Please somebody fix alioth.

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> To: Nathanael Nerode <neroden at twcny.rr.com>
> Cc: jdthood at yahoo.co.uk, 237056 at bugs.debian.org,
> 	pkg-sysinit-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org, control at bugs.debian.org
> Subject: Re: udev breaks bootlogd
> From: Marco d'Itri <md at Linux.IT>
> 
> found 237056 0.050-1 # this means I can ignore this bug forever
> thanks
> 
> On Dec 31, Nathanael Nerode <neroden at twcny.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> > Except it isn't remounted later, until S36.  This is really bad because
> By design, because it was hard to do it reliably and Miquel assured me
> that this would cause no problems (and indeed it did no, except for
> bootlogd).
> 
> > * have udev actually remount /dev/pts (and /dev/shm) at the end of its script
> >   The natural solution.  Creates code duplication, though.  Unless udev
> >   invokes /etc/mountvirtfs directly, in which case it has to watch out
> >   and make sure that 'set -e' is disabled for the invocation.
> See above. I am not inclined to do this again (it adds complexity to
> work around a misfeature in a different package).
> 
> > * split mountvirtfs into multiple scripts, one for /proc and /sys which
> >   runs before udev, and one for /dev/pts and /dev/shm which runs after.
> This is what me and Miquel agreed to do, but when I tried discussing it
> with the current maintainer he was not very interested.
> 
> > * move bootlogd before udev
> This is what I do on my system and it works fine, but I'd rather split
> mountvirtfs which is the correct solution.
> 
> > As an aside, none of these solutions are robust to parallelized initscripts
> > -- but then neither are udev or bootlogd, period.  Essentially
> > nothing can safely run at the same time as udev.  Essentially all
> > initscripts should run after bootlogd for bootlogd to make sense -- but only
> > if bootlogd is present.  And these aren't because the later scripts in any
> > sense 'require' them.
> I have been saying this for a while, now you only need to persuade the
> initscripts maintainer.
> 
> -- 
> ciao,
> Marco




-- 
ciao,
Marco
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