[Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#385722: please consider splitting off sysvutils

[martin f krafft]

Package: sysvinit
Version: 2.86.ds1-15
Severity: wishlist

Ubuntu has recently split several programmes from sysvinit into
a separate binary package (same source), called sysvutils. The
reason was upstart, which is designed to eventually replace
sysvinit.

  http://www.netsplit.com/blog/work/canonical/upstart.html
  http://www.netsplit.com/blog/work/canonical/upstart2.html
  https://launchpad.net/products/upstart

I have uploaded upstart to Debian experimental, but it's starting to
become a real maintenance headache with all the divergance.

Would you please consider taking Ubuntu's lead and also providing
a separate package sysvutils?

  http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/source/sysvinit

Here's the list of programmes they moved to sysvutils (along with their
manpages):

-rwxr-xr-x root/root     12172 2006-08-31 22:35 ./usr/bin/last
-rwxr-xr-x root/root      4208 2006-08-31 22:35 ./usr/bin/mesg
-rwxr-xr-x root/root     10260 2006-08-31 22:35 ./sbin/killall5
lrwxrwxrwx root/root         0 2006-08-31 22:35 ./usr/bin/lastb -> last
lrwxrwxrwx root/root         0 2006-08-31 22:35 ./bin/pidof -> ../sbin/killall5

sysvinit then depends on this package.

upstart does too, and it provides the following binaries itself:

-rwxr-xr-x root/root     52768 2006-09-02 03:27 ./sbin/init
-rwxr-xr-x root/root     26528 2006-09-02 03:27 ./sbin/initctl
-rwxr-xr-x root/root     26528 2006-09-02 03:27 ./sbin/start
-rwxr-xr-x root/root     24960 2006-09-02 03:27 ./sbin/reboot
-rwxr-xr-x root/root     31204 2006-09-02 03:27 ./sbin/shutdown
-rwxr-xr-x root/root        39 2006-09-02 03:27 ./sbin/sulogin
lrwxrwxrwx root/root         0 2006-09-02 03:27 ./sbin/stop -> start
lrwxrwxrwx root/root         0 2006-09-02 03:27 ./sbin/status -> start
lrwxrwxrwx root/root         0 2006-09-02 03:27 ./sbin/halt -> reboot
lrwxrwxrwx root/root         0 2006-09-02 03:27 ./sbin/poweroff -> reboot

-- System Information:
Debian Release: testing/unstable
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-2-amd64
Locale: LANG=en_GB, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)

Versions of packages sysvinit depends on:
ii  initscripts                 2.86.ds1-15  Scripts for initializing and shutt
ii  libc6                       2.3.999.2-12 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libselinux1                 1.30.26-2    SELinux shared libraries
ii  libsepol1                   1.12.24-1    Security Enhanced Linux policy lib
ii  sysv-rc                     2.86.ds1-15  System-V-like runlevel change mech

sysvinit recommends no packages.

-- no debconf information

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