[Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#707004: upgrade-reports: sysklogd removed when upgrading from squeeze to wheezy (system existed under lenny) NO log deamon installed to replace it

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 17:34 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > On Montag, 6. Mai 2013, Andy Simpkins wrote:
> >> As part of the upgrade to Wheezy, sysklogd got removed.  There was no
> >> replacement log system installed in its place.
> >>
> >> The system was origanlly installed under Lenny, before an upgrade squeeze. 
> >> This means that rsyslogd was not installed on the system.
[...]
> I don't really have an opinion either way, but I'm sure the stable
> release team wouldn't be too happy over the introduction of a new binary
> package in wheezy.

Not hugely, indeed.

> I want to add, that the release notes of lenny very clearly
> communicated, that sysklogd was deprecated and had been replaced by
> rsyslog, even though I also admit that sadly not everyone reads the
> release notes.

It indicates that sysklogd is no longer the default, but I'm not
convinced that it yells "please get rid of sysklogd from your systems"
as loudly as maybe it should have. Hindsight is 20/20, of course. :-|

In any case, as discussed on IRC a little while ago, I'm currently
leaning towards improving the documentation here rather than adding the
new package. That's not simply an aversion to introducing packages to
stable post-release, but a concern that unless the configuration
conversion is very clever we could end up with people having syslogds
which appear to be running happily but are not actually logging what /
where they expect; that's likely to be less obvious to spot than the
absence of any logging.

Regards,

Adam