[Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#781766: sysvinit should depend on initscripts for a functional /lib/sysvinit/init

[Michael Biebl]

Am 05.05.2015 um 17:57 schrieb Josh Triplett:
> On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 02:08:56PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, 02 Apr 2015 11:24:53 -0700 Josh Triplett <josh at joshtriplett.org>
>> wrote:
>>> sysvinit-core depends on initscripts, but sysvinit does not.  However,
>>> sysvinit ships /lib/sysvinit/init, and it should be possible to use
>>> sysvinit by booting with init=/lib/sysvinit/init without having
>>> sysvinit-core installed.  Thus, sysvinit needs to have dependencies on
>>> any packages needed for a functional sysvinit init system, including
>>> initscripts (and potentially other dependencies of sysvinit-core).
>>
>> The sysvinit package (as shipped in jessie) was mostly intended as a
>> transitional measure when upgrading from wheezy to jessie.
>> I tried to make that clear also in the package description.
> 
> I had assumed that the sysvinit package would stick around as long as
> sysvinit does.  What is your plan post-jessie?

Drop it, most likely. It has done it's purpose to provide a smooth
upgrade path from wheezy to jessie.

>> Keep in mind, that when installing jessie from scratch, there will be no
>> /etc/inittab. This means, installing the sysvinit package (in parallel
>> to systemd-sysv) will not result in a bootable system via
>> init=/lib/sysvinit/init.
>>
>> Now, if there is desire to make the sysvinit package useful beyond the
>> wheezy -> jessie upgrade, someone would have to deal with this inittab
>> problem first, I think.
> 
> That's a good point.  I would have assumed that one of the sysvinit
> packages would create /etc/inittab on installation.  I suspect that some
> people installing jessie from scratch will find it rather surprising
> when they're unable to switch to sysvinit simply by installing the
> appropriate package.

You can switch to sysvinit-the-init-system by installing sysvinit-core.
This will setup a generic /etc/inittab.

sysvinit-the-package wasn't really designed to be installed on a
pristine jessie system. It was meant to facilitate a smooth upgrade
path. As said, I tried to make that clear in the package description.

Now, if someone want's to keep sysvinit-the-package for stretch, I don't
have a strong feeling about it, but this would need coordination with
the sysvinit-core package regarding the /etc/inittab handling.
It's not something I plan to work on myself.

Michael


-- 
Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
universe are pointed away from Earth?

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 819 bytes
Desc: OpenPGP digital signature
URL: <http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-sysvinit-devel/attachments/20150505/39fc3e5b/attachment.sig>