[Pkg-sysvinit-devel] Bug#786469: fixed in util-linux 2.26.2-5

[Andreas Henriksson]

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 09:18:33AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> On Fri, 22 May 2015 10:49:38 +0000 Martin Pitt <mpitt at debian.org> wrote:
> > * Using sysvinit-utils (<< 2.88dsf-59.1~) confuses apt during upgrade, so
> >   use Depends: instead. This isn't technically true, but ensures a robust
> >   upgrade also from jessie. (Closes: #786469)
> 
> This seems unfortunate, considering that one of the primary purposes of
> this change was to reduce dependence on sysvinit-utils.
> 
> Could the dependency go the other way, instead?

I agree it's unfortunate that sysvinits "upside down" packaging style
now has spread to util-linux. As I see it it will be possible
to fix (via further sysvinit NMUs) once we're ready to get rid
of the initscripts dependency completely in util-linux.

It would be good to hear what the longterm plans are for sysvinit
(the binary package). Even if things stay as they are right now
I guess new jessie installs will be in great numbers and people
will generally have to install sysvinit-core to get a working
sysvinit by the time of stretch release that we can already now
see it as ok to drop initscripts dependency from u-l, given
that sysvinit-core already depends on initscripts.

I quickly looked at blockers for simply dropping the binary
sysvinit package and it seems to boil down to "init-select".
On the other hand the init-select package seems to entirely
be based on farse assumptions. No replies from maintainer
on filed bugs. Maybe someone should just push for it to get
removed....


Regards,
Andreas Henriksson