Bug#419049: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Re: Bug#419049: quota: Causes shutdown

[Michael Biebl]

Michael Meskes wrote:
>> I'm not saying, that quota is at fault here. I reassigned the bug mostly
> 
> So why did you reassign the bug to quota?

I don't want to play BTS ping-pong, but I explained why. Please reread
my emails.

> 
>> because it's imho not a bug in network-manager. network-manager is
>> simply not conceived for such a use case.
> 
> Other users with similar problems might find the report if it's listed
> with network-manager but they certainly won't find it under quota.

I don't understand this logic. This error only happens when you have a
setup which uses quota and it's the quota process that hangs.
So, the first thing people will be looking for (as did John), is a
problem with quota.

>> network-manager is intended for highly dynamic network environments,
>> where networks come and go and where you switch between different networks.
>> Removing network-manager is probably the best "bug fix" there is atm.
>> For a static configuration with NFS mounts etc, as Johns' setup, I would
>> recommend to use plain ifupdown.
> 
> If this is the only solution, fine, but it has to be documented IMO.

Who said it's the only solution?

>> P.S.: What happens if you pull the network plug? Will quota then also
>> fail to stop? Is this a matter of how the nfs share was mounted (hard or
>>  soft)?
> 
> Problem is (at least I think it is) that quota stats the mountpoint which
> then fails because the server does not respond anymore (obviously). 
> 
> But I don't think it makes sense to discuss this detail because more
> severe problems seem to arise from this setup.

Well, then it probably it should be documented within the quota package,
that it can't deal with network outages.

Cheers,
Michael


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