Bug#419049: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Re: Bug#419049: quota: Causes shutdown

[Michael Biebl]

Michael Biebl wrote:
> Michael Meskes wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 03:34:45PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>>>> Other users with similar problems might find the report if it's listed
>>>> with network-manager but they certainly won't find it under quota.
>>> I don't understand this logic. This error only happens when you have a
>>> setup which uses quota and it's the quota process that hangs.
>>> So, the first thing people will be looking for (as did John), is a
>>> problem with quota.
>> Sorry, I should have explained better. I was talking about the other
>> problems arising from the network device being downed before a lot of
>> servers and before network filesystems are unmounted. IMO this is way
>> more severe than quota hanging.
>>
> 
> Please be more specific, about what other problems you are talking
> about. Otherwise we are getting nowhere.
> 
> Besides, you are blaming network-manager for something which can't be
> solved properly within our current init system, imho. I'm even tempted
> to reassign the bug to sysvinit.
> Otherwise you'd have to also file grave bugs against e.g. wpasupplicant
> (which downs the interface at S15).
> 
> I still fail to see, what I can do within network-manager to fix this
> problem. As long as that is the case, I don't consider network-manager
> to be at fault here.

If you actually have an idea, how this can be solved properly [1]
(within network-manager), I'm of course all ears.

Cheers,
Michael

[1] Please take into account, what I already wrote in my previous
emails. E.g. sendsigs running at S20 (stopping processes like
network-manager) and umountnfs at S40 on shutdown.

Simply moving dbus (and network-manager that is) from K20 to, let's say,
K80, will only paper over some issues but not solve any underlying
problem. So I'm hesitant to do such hack.
-- 
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