[Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Re: Ubuntu's hal changes which are appropriate for Debian

[Michael Biebl]

Martin Pitt wrote:

>> Just a quick note: Why don't you remove haldaemon again from the various
>> groups on purge? Is this intentional?
> 
> Yes, it is. It is a bad idea to remove users in postrm in general. And
> since we do not remove the system user, I see no reason to modify it

Really?

hal.postrm has

if [ "$1" = "purge" ] ; then
        deluser --quiet --system haldaemon > /dev/null || true
        rmdir /var/run/hal || true
fi

That's why I suggested to remove haldaemon from floppy,cdrom,plugdev and
powerdev again


>>>   - debian/patches/55_nonpolkit-mount-policy.patch: Implement a policy check
>>>     if PolicyKit is not available: Only allow mounting of removable devices
>>>     to non-root users.
>> I already had this patch added for 0.5.9 but removed it in anticipation
>> of PolicyKit. I'm still a bit undecided, if we should enable PolicyKit
>> support in hal.
>> For now it's probably safer to use your patch and disable PolicyKit (and
>> ConsoleKit) support in hal for now.
> 
> The patch is written in a way that it does not change anything when PK
> is enabled. That's why I think it is a very good idea to apply it,
> otherwise hal will allow anyone to mount any fixed hard disk.

Agreed.

>> fwiw, I started packaging gnome-device-manager [2], which works also
>> fine with hal-0.5.9.
>> So, we can either ship both for now (and using your patch) or already
>> transition over to the new g-d-m.
> 
> I would be more than happy to transition to g-d-m, especially since we
> have a SoC project now which wants to extend it with some features (in
> close cooperation with upstream).

Ok, so we do agree here to replace h-d-m with g-d-m. Sjoerd, what's your
opinion on this?

If we go this route this means we upload hal-0.5.9 without the
hal-device-manager package and at the same time release g-d-m.
Should we add Conflicts/Replaces(/Provides) to the new g-d-m package to
enforce the removal of the old h-d-m package then? It's technically not
necessary as they can coexist peacefully.

Cheers,
Michael

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