[Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#504918: [Debian Wiki] Update of "NewInLenny" : Upgrade over SSH issue

[Michael Biebl]

Stuart Prescott wrote:

> 
> Possibly -- but would they use network manager in such a situation? (I don't 
> know). My feeling is that it would be fairly uncommon to upgrade over ssh for 
> machines that actually used network manager; the intersection of 
> upgrade-over-ssh and users of network manager (which is a desktop-centric 
> tool) would seem small.

Yeah, I do not recommend NM on servers (and the package description clearly
states this) or in static environments like a workstation in a lab, where you
might upgrade the system over ssh.

> As such, I had thought it was probably just a "document that you shouldn't do 
> this" situation rather than an RC bug in network-manager. In the same way 
> that upgrading over telnet or within a gdm session is not supported, this is 
> just documented rather than being a grave bug in the package. See section 
> 4.1.4 of the etch release notes (which is currently unchanged in the lenny 
> release notes) which explicitly warns against upgrading within a telnet, 
> rlogin, rsh, xdm, gdm or kdm session.
> 
> I doubt this is something that can or will be cured before lenny releases so 
> I'm guessing that this is going to be "fixed" by documentation for the time 
> being at least. (Which is why I flagged it as an issue in the release notes 
> wiki.)

Well said. Honestly, there is no easy fix for this.
Either we restart network-manager, or we tell the user to reboot the system. But
for the latter, there is no infrastructure in Debian to do this in a structured way.

Cheers,
Michael

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