[Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#500119: Bug#500119: Better way to avoid both knetworkmanager and nm-applet are started in parallel

[PCMan]

If you don't install nm and nm-applet, it doesn't matter what's inside
nm-applet.desktop.
Fixing the incorrect desktop file won't break any existing things and
has no relationship with your question. If a user don't want the
dependencies brought by nm, he/she shouldn't get it installed.
Besides, the reason why nm has so many dependencies is understandable.
To get your Linux desktop correctly connected to the internet is very
difficult and can be very complicated. That's why nm is so
complicated. So personally I think nm is still an acceptable option
even for lightweight desktops since it works quite well.
Some might argue that wicd can do this well and it's small, too.
However, it's written in python, and that "small" program need python
and its libs, which are not thin at all.
Network manager is still a reasonable and sensible option if you need
to manage your connections with GUI.

The point is, whether the installer for lxde flavor includes nm or
not, it'll never works for the users even when they really want to use
it and install nm manually. That's why this fix is definitely needed.

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:33 AM, Otavio Salvador <otavio at debian.org> wrote:
> Adeodato Simó <dato at net.com.org.es> writes:
>
>> * Andrew Lee [Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:11:18 +0800]:
>>
>>> Cc'ed this to debian-boot and debian-release.
>>
>>> Dear RMs,
>>
>>> This is only one line change in nm-applet.desktop which benefit other
>>> Window Managers and Desktops user. Please accept this change into Lenny.
>>
>> Has somebody verified that the change ensures it doesn't get started in
>> KDE, just as with OnlyShownIn=GNOME? Or do you have first-hand knowledge
>> of that? In any of those case, I'm ok with that one change.
>
> This is somewhat complicate to decide. I see two sides in this
> question:
>
>  1) adding Network Manager for LXDE we'll give a more ready to use
>  desktop for laptop users and give some extra bonus for regular users;
>
>  2) LXDE seems to fit very well with users wanting a low-resource
>  environment and Network Manager is not thin (it bring a lot of
>  libraries and consumes resources);
>
> So personally I'm unsure which is the best option.
>
> From my POV I believe we shouldn't add Network Manager on lxde-desktop
> task since it's quite easy to do it and we can make the installation
> fat for a user that is limited regarting space, memory and cpu power.
>
> What others think about it?
>
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