[Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#649385: policykit-1: pkexec can not open display for GUI programs
Luca Capello
luca at pca.it
Sun Nov 20 18:30:18 UTC 2011
Hi there!
I would have preferred to continue the discussions on the single bugs,
so it was documented in the BTS once and for all. Cc:ing #649385, the
first reported bug.
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:36:57 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
> On 20.11.2011 15:44, Luca Capello wrote:
>
>> 1) on a up-to-date sid, both from GNOME or SSH sessions and with the
>> user in the sudo group, pkexec always fails with "Cannot open
>> display:" (e.g. for gedit) or "Error: no display specified" (e.g. for
>> iceweasel). Both gksudo and gksu work with no problem.
>
> pkexec does not allow arbitrary X programs to be run as root, you need
> to enable that explicitly, which is not a problem for packages which use
> gksudo in their desktop file, They just need to ship a corresponding
> policy file.
> See gnome-system-log, how it is implemented there.
Thank you for the explanation, but this means that for each and every
package that wants to use pkexec in a gksu(do)-like mode you need to
provide an extra configuration file.
> I would call, not allowing iceweasel to be run as root by default as a
> feature, tbh.
I have never wrote I want to run iceweasel as root nor that it is a
feature or a bug, I just pointed out another example for the same error,
but with a different output.
>> 2) AFAIK pkexec does not have any time option like sudo.
>
> polkit authorizations are either one-time or valid for the life time of
> the session.
Again, this is different than with gksudo (even for desktop/menu files),
which is why I reported the three bugs considering what you wrote in the
end at:
<http://lists.debian.org/4EB2E161.2000209%40debian.org>
FWIW, this has been reported as #649386.
>> 3) while if you are in the sudo group everything will work as expected,
>> gksudo honors /etc/sudoers*, while pkexec does not. This is IMHO a
>> showstopper for pkexec to be a *real* gksudo replacement.
>
> The interface we decided on was to use group sudo for this purpose.
There is a difference here: with group sudo, you are granting more
access than the ones you get parsing /etc/sudoers* (read below).
FWIW, this has been reported as #649387.
> policykit is not sudo, so it should not start parsing sudoers(.d).
Perfectly fine for me, but IMHO policykit is abusing sudo, given that
with /etc/polkit-1/localauthority.conf.d/51-debian-sudo.conf pkexec
grants any privilege to members in the sudo group *without* checking if
this group is actually allowed in /etc/sudoers* (this *is* a bug):
=====
rescue at gismo-sid:~$ groups
rescue cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev scanner netdev bluetooth
rescue at gismo-sid:~$ sudo ls /
[sudo] password for rescue:
rescue is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
rescue at gismo-sid:~$ pkexec ls /
==== AUTHENTICATING FOR org.freedesktop.policykit.exec ===
Authentication is needed to run `/bin/ls' as the super user
Authenticating as: rescue,,, (rescue)
Password:
==== AUTHENTICATION COMPLETE ===
bin dev initrd.img lib32 media proc sbin sys var
boot etc initrd.img.old lib64 mnt root selinux tmp vmlinuz
core home lib lost+found opt run srv usr vmlinuz.old
rescue at gismo-sid:~$
=====
> That said, if you don't want the sudo group for this,
It is not about what I do or do not want, sudo != administrator, as
explained in /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.txt.gz (but see
also #600700 for the current real situation):
sudo
Members of this group do not need to type their password when using sudo.
See /usr/share/doc/sudo/OPTIONS.
> It's about the usage of gksu(do) in desktop/menu file and not about
> generally replacing sudo with policykit.
Again, perfectly fine for me: I am sorry if I have misread your words
and I admit I should have used better titles for the bugs. I was
(mainly) interested in using pkexec as a replacement for su-to-root in
an environment which is not a DE, but still imitates how Debian's DEs
work.
Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca
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