[Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#792307: closed by Brian Potkin <claremont102 at gmail.com> (Re: Bug#863974: hplip should not require systemd)

[Christian Mueller]

Hi Brian,

I just realized that my bug report, #792307, got merged with #863974 
which may have the same underlying cause but a different interpretation 
of the results. Yes, just installing the systemd binary won't enable it 
as the active init system but another part of the dependency chain, 
libpam-systemd, already imports some of the systemd patterns (separate 
temp mount points for each user) which, apart from the incredible 
clutter in the list of mounted file systems, breaks my workflows (I need 
a single /tmp for all users).

Debian always maintained that systemd would be optional and I would hope 
for a little more flexibility when it comes to [reasonable] requests to 
allow setting up desktop systems without having systemd bits and pieces 
getting in the way. Just having a version of policykit-1 compiled 
without systemd dependencies would solve all our issues and it's a tiny 
little change in the rules file. We would simply have two alternatives 
for policykit-1, one with and one without systemd. Or dynamic support at 
runtime. If there's anything I can do to help getting this implemented, 
especially the runtime detection, please let me know - I'm more than 
happy to put this together but only if I this is not a lost cause 
because nobody is interested in accepting this as a patch, anyway.

Thanks,
--Christian

On 06/03/2017 09:57 PM, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
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> #792307: policykit-1: There should be a variant of policykit-1 which doesn't depend on systemd
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> It has been closed by Brian Potkin <claremont102 at gmail.com>.
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