[Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#919619: network-manager: should support iwd as wpasupplicant alternative

Jonas Smedegaard dr at jones.dk
Sun Feb 3 22:44:24 GMT 2019


Quoting Andreas Henriksson (2019-02-03 23:12:37)
> Control: severity -1 wishlist

Please reconsider the severity, because...

> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 10:09:21PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > network-manager is compiled with support for iwd,
> > but the package declares an absolute dependency on wpasupplicant.

Above is the issue reported: I.e. the _possibility_ for using iwd as 
alternative.


> Please note that from a "debian stable perspective" iwd should still 
> be considered "tech preview".

Yes.  Understood.

But similar to our various X11 login managers not _depending_ on stable 
window managers but at most _recommending those, I beg for same here.

> Having said all that, iwd should probably work well for most users.
> (But at the same time I'd also recommend keeping wpasupplicant
> installed for those cases where you do run into a situation where
> you can't connect using iwd and has no other connectivity options
> available.)

It seems you - literally - agree that we should _recommend_ 
wpasupplicant.  That is what this bug is about: Currently 
network-manager _depends_ on wpasupplicant which is wrong: In some 
exotic situations it makes sense to not install wpasupplicant, and 
network-manager _works_ without wpasupplicant, just less ideal.


> > Please add iwd as alternative to wpasupplicant.
> 
> In support of this statement, I'd like to think of potential drawbacks 
> and try to argue why they aren't problematic.

In retrsospect I regret having mentioned above in this same bugreport.

Because I agree that _encouraging_ the use of iwd is of severity 
wishlist and unsuitable for Buster.

Please disregard, for the purpose of judging severity of this bugreport 
at least.


 - Jonas

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