[Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#1099086: might be less verbose in calling adduser

Simon McVittie smcv at debian.org
Sun Mar 9 15:23:15 GMT 2025


On Sun, 09 Mar 2025 at 15:20:35 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>You're being nice to Devuan here, or why are you not moving completely 
>to systemd-sysusers?

No, Devuan patches dbus anyway, so they can do whatever they feel is 
necessary, as long as they avoid blaming me for it.

I kept the fallback to adduser because my prediction was that having a 
few extra lines of code will cost me less time and mental health than 
fielding inflated-severity bug reports from sysv-rc users who will 
accuse me of malice or incompetence whenever they perceive dbus as having 
broken their system.

Similarly the versioned dependency on adduser is not strictly necessary 
because we officially don't support skipping a release, but it costs me 
less mental health than dealing with inflated-severity bug reports from 
anyone who skips a release and then blames me for the consequences; and 
the versioned dependency on base-files is not strictly necessary because 
we already told everyone that merged /usr was mandatory for bookworm, 
but not everyone reads the release notes or pays attention.

This can all be revisited in the forky cycle, especially if there's a 
general project consensus to move towards everything using 
dh_installsysusers and dh_installtmpfiles, but dbus is widely installed 
and I don't have enough spoons to make myself everyone's punching bag 
for that transition. I'm sorry if this is a disappointment.

     smcv



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