kiax in Debian (was Re: Problems rebuilding twinkle)

[George Danchev]

On Sunday 07 May 2006 18:42, Santiago Garcia Mantinan wrote:
> > these out) in addition that we can live without lib/ anyway. I sent them
> > a patch (ca. November 05) against 0.8.4 to clean the iLBC stuff up. You
> > can have it at:
> > svn co http://svn.openfmi.net/dev/people/danchev/kiax
>
> It doesn't seem to be working right now:
>
> svn co http://svn.openfmi.net/dev/people/danchev/kiax
> svn: REPORT request failed on '/dev/!svn/vcc/default'
> svn: REPORT of '/dev/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request
> (http://svn.openfmi.net)

Hm, strange. This should be a temp failure. Anyway you can access it via:
http://svn.openfmi.net/dev/people/danchev/kiax/

> But I suppose your patch was more or less like mine (remove all ilbc stuff
> and reposition the checkboxes), isn't it?

In fact your patch looks much better and saner since it fixes minimal parts 
and also the ui itself to reflect the actual changes below which have been 
made. Mine is a swap of kiax's lib/ with a bloody combination from various 
parts of library sources already found in Debian with numerous additions (on 
a trial&error basis) to make that pile compile within kiax 0.8.4. I know that 
is insane, but I was after to save something anyway for their lib/... 
qw(shame on me to kill so much time for no good reasons;-);

> > which was not incorporated in 0.8.5 - reasons unknown for the time being.
>
> Well, if my patches look ok then we can go with that and I can upload
> tonight if nobody complains. ok?

No doubt, your patch look pretty clean and sane from my POV. I'm a little bit 
concerned about introducing hazzardous applications as kiax as a whole to Sid 
while aproaching the release line. I do not think that your moderate changes 
will result in any harm, so let it Sid's then.

> > lib/portaudio/LICENSE.txt and
> > lib/portmixer/LICENSE.txt sound terribly non-free:
> >
> :-) the removal saves us a lot of problems, but... we don't have portmixer
>
> in Debian, so... wasn't it used at all in kiax? if it was used... what was
> it used for that we'll be missing now?

Hm, as Mikael cleared that out.... I think I was not aware of the fact that 
"Portmixer is part of the iaxclient source package in Debian and is built 
into the static library in libiaxclient-dev."

> > My impression is that linking against libgsm we already have in Debian
> > should be enough. I'm still not sure how to approach upstream that
> > distributing (possibly) modified non-free code with their lib/ is pretty
> > dangerous solution for them.
>
> Well, upstream should be aware of the problems that all that nonfree stuff
> has and should probably drop all that from the tarball and instead
> recommend the version of those libs that is tested to work well with kiax
> with a link to download them from upstream.

My suggestion to them was to distribute a kiax without that lib/ virus and 
whatever branch they want as a companion to that if any. Obvoiusly they 
didn't consider it a good idea.

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