Bug#1068504: mumble-server: wrong path for systemd-sysusers file

Diederik de Haas didi.debian at cknow.org
Tue Jan 14 14:48:07 GMT 2025


On Fri Jan 10, 2025 at 1:53 PM CET, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> Yes, we expect Debian package maintainers to implement the simple thing.

In a project I'm part of there is this running joke:
"You sound like Diederik"

It involves kernel stuff and periodically there needs to be a rebase
onto a new upstream version, so you just need to check which patches can
be dropped, which need to be updated and which need to be rebased and
then do run ``fakeroot debian/rules maintainerclean`` and ``make -f
debian/rules orig`` till all the patches apply cleanly.
And ofc check which kernel config changes need to be applied.
You know ... simple stuff.

Turns out that in the 2+ years *I* have been doing it I picked up some
knowledge, skills and ways to deal with issues that not everyone has.

> For a limited while, for a limited subset of packages, we expected
> them to do something more complicated, and when that applied, we
> sent patches. However this time is over, and packages should do the
> simple thing of directly using the path *in* /usr.

Ah, great, so you have extensive knowledge and many examples you can
point to ...

> mumble is probably the last package that can't figure this out one
> way or another, and it's getting a bit tiring. Especially when
> people are trying to help, but clearly the messages don't come
> across.

Providing links to commits where such problems were fixed, would be
helpful. Providing a link to a package which you consider a fine example
of how this should be done properly ... is helpful.
A patch would be REALLY helpful.

Such a patronizing tone is certainly NOT helping.

My 0.02
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