[Pkg-xen-devel] Re: [Pkg-xen-changes] r13 - trunk/debian

Ralph Passgang ralph at debianbase.de
Fri Feb 17 20:00:07 UTC 2006


Am Freitag, 17. Februar 2006 20:42 schrieb Guido Trotter:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 08:11:30PM +0100, Ralph Passgang wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > That's funny, because the name "linux-xen0-2.6" was more or less a free
> > choosen name by myself without any of those thinks in mind. I even never
> > noticed that the actual kernel package "provides" this already
> >
> > In fact my "linux-xen0-2.6" package just provides the actual kernel .deb
> > (called linux-xen0-2.6.12.6-xen_tha1_<arch>.deb on sid/etch and
> > kernel-xen0-2.6.12.6-xen_tha1_<arch>.deb on sarge) and were only some
> > kind of container package, because in needed some kind of source package
> > for my autobuilder system to build a kernel package like a normal debian
> > source package. as I said already, my kernel packages are more or less
> > just a big hack and not for an offical debian release.
>
> Then your package is named linux-xen0-2.6.12.6-xen on sid and
> kernel-xen0-2.6.12.6-xen on sarge... The suggestion was satisfied because
> those packages provided that one!
>
> Anyway we've already seen that at least for now we cannot upload kernels to
> the debian archive...
>
> > But even if every make-kpkg kernel provides a linux-xen0-2.6
> > meta-package, does it really help the user?
> >
> > If the user hasn't compiled a kernel by himself then he will not find the
> > suggested package in the offical debian archive (and might report that as
> > bug or whatever) and if he has already compiled a kernel on his own, then
> > he doesn't need any further suggestions. It only will confuse users,
> > won't it?
>
> Well, he might get it from some other source, put it in his own private
> archive and then the suggestion will be satisfied...  I think we should
> leave it like it was! ;)
>
> > I think we should only suggest packages that are offical debian packages
> > and not what the user can build on his own or what might be available on
> > external archives. Imho we should only add these suggestion again when we
> > are having a way to provide kernel images with security support, but that
> > might get the hard (as discussed in other threads already).
>
> By policy a recommends not present in the archive is a bug, while a
> suggests is not! So for now a suggests would be fine... When we will be
> able to provide the kernel through official debian we may change that to
> recommends, if we want...

ok, then I will add the suggestion again, but as you discussed with jeremy I 
will make it "linux-xen0-2.6 | kernel-xen0-2.6" this time, right?

--Ralph

P.s.: good, then this would have been one step back and two steps forth, good 
this was discussed ;))

>
> Guido
>
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