[Pkg-xen-devel] Re: Packaing Xen 3.0 etc for Debian [signed]

[Guido Trotter]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 10:00:18AM -0800, Jeremy T. Bouse [c] wrote:

Hi,

>     What can I say gang, but "WOW!"... Just made it into work and seems
> the list had a wild fire while I was commuting. It seems to me Bastian
> had his own plans that he didn't make known and is apparently the only
> one on the kernel team, that I've seen, wanting to completely manage
> Xen. I can see his point about using -unstable rather than -testing and
> it would seem that what we have in place could easily be transitioned to
> work with it instead. Do we want to tag what we have now that works with
> -testing and get any changes made to support -unstable done before we
> release any packaging?
> 

Yeah, a lot of things can happen while commuting! ;) Anyway the I agree we can
go on and support both unstable and testing... Just not only unstable: there are
people who want to run xen in production, and thus would preffer not to have the
bleeding edge! ;)

My opinion is: let' fix the xenstore.so thing, tag and upload. Then we can
manage two trees, one for unstable and one for stable! Unless the whole kernel
team says they want it! 

Also Bastian uploaded his package to unstable (it's sitting in NEW):
http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html and he did so *after* the discussion
started, which is not very fair (it seems like saying: I don't want to dicuss or
to reach consensus)... What do we want to do? We already have a greater version
(because of the +hg) so we could just follow... ;)

Anyway if we upload we want to do it with 3.0-testing before and with unstable
only later!

>     Maybe try a lil harder to get Bastian to join our efforts and
> support from the kernel team side as we do really need that support and
> it seems foolish to me to split hairs over this. Xen is complex and
> needs more than one person to support it properly IMHO. Without any
> kernel team support we will have trouble getting pre-built base Xen
> kernel images (dom0 or domU) into the archive.
> 

I hope so... As you can see I tried, but he doesn't seem to be listening...
Either we give up and all join the kernel team (but I'd rather not, I don't have
time to follow kernel development) or we go ahead and hope he gets convinced...

>     I'm going to draft an email and try to get Bastian to communicate
> with me and see if I can't get him to see our point better. From the
> others that had responded that are not on the xen team, it seems they
> agree that it shouldn't mean disbanding this team and that the kernel
> team doesn't have the desire to maintain xen as well. Any thoughts?
> 

It seems that for now people say so... Also we had warned Adam (and anyone, on
the BTS, and also the XenSource wiki (I posted there yesterday)) before about
our intents, while we couldn't know about the other effort till now...

Guido