[Pkg-xen-devel] Bug#710650: Bug#718767: transition: ocaml 4.00.1

[Thomas Goirand]

On 09/10/2013 03:17 PM, Stéphane Glondu wrote:
> Le 06/09/2013 10:14, Thomas Goirand a écrit :
>> I wrote it many time to many people. Please don't just read 1.6 as "new
>> upstream release" for XCP. That's unfortunately not the way it works.
>> Upstream version for Debian and the one they do for CentOS are
>> different, and just using upstream 1.6 doesn't cut it. It needs to be
>> ported to Debian, and that's far from a trivial work (as Michael Tokarev
>> wrote, it's not "just replacing /usr/libexec/ into /usr/lib/ and the like").
> 
> That is not the way it should work. Upstream version should not be
> specific to either Debian or CentOS. There should be only one version,
> and it is the job of each distribution (yours, here) to do the
> specialization work.

Well, I agree, and upstream agrees as well. There's an ongoing work to
have this happen.

> If you can't, then arrange for its removal from testing.
> 
>> However, as I wrote it, it's going to happen, so please be patient about
>> it. IMO, this shouldn't block any transition though. If the release team
>> is reading: just let everything transition to testing, and remove the
>> old version of XCP 1.3.2 in testing if that helps, plus add some
>> blocking bugs so that the rest of Debian isn't affected by the (not
>> finished) work on XCP 1.6 for Debian.
> 
> There are reverse-dependencies so it cannot be easily removed from
> testing. And this situation IS blocking other people's work. And has
> been for (at least) one month.

Right. Though the month of August isn't the best time for things to move
on, as people go in holidays, go in Debconf, and so on... :)

>> No, the package isn't neglected. It's simply more complicated than it
>> seems. I'm currently dealing with upstream about it.
> 
> While doing so, please make sure future versions are trivial to port to
> Debian. It should have been done during the initial packaging.

Yes, it should have. Though it's not as easy as it sounds in your
wording, and this work was done by upstream. I have no time for doing
the work myself.

>> I by the way don't mind if 1.3.2 is removed from testing, as we will
>> need to package the next version anyway.
> 
> Then, could you give the list of packages that should be removed from
> testing? Remember, testing should be self-contained, so it means remove
> all reverse dependencies as well.

I'm currently removing the xcp-plugins from Nova. As for the list of
packages, it's rather easy, they are all listed here:

http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-xen-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org

(of course, that doesn't include the "xen" package which is the
hypervisor which is also listed)

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)