Bug#335488: [Pkg-zope-developers] Re: Bug#335488: Removal request for old zope packages

[Jeroen van Wolffelaar]

On Mon, Nov 21, 2005 at 09:57:00AM +0100, A Mennucc wrote:
> Too many zope(s)?  That was discussed already. Problem is: there are a
> lot of differences between zope2.6, zope2.7 and zope2.8 : you cannot
> simply upgrade and hope your portal will continue to work. Some time
> ago I had a conversation with people who work in a company building
> web services: they worked with zope 2.6 (although 2.7 was around)
> since it was OK for them, and they had no plans in switching (at that
> time), since it would cost too much time and failures (that their
> clients were not willing to pay for!).

Isn't this *exactly* the usecase for people staying with stable? Debian
has its own release cycle, *exactly because* software during its
development has incompatible changes. Because of Debian releasing and
having branches (stable, testing, unstable), I believe it would be best
if there were not too many versions of the same software around, where
I'd put 'too many' as more than two for complicated software (or
software at the heart of the dependency tree) that went through a major
bump, and 'more than one' for every other piece of software.

For example, we only ship one version of gnome, one version of kde, one
version of perl, and for example: two versions of apache, two versions
of mysql, two versions of PHP. Note that zope certainly isn't the only
piece of software in Debian of which I think there could be a reduction
in the number of simultaneously supported versions, postgresql (4),
python (4) and gcc (5) are three high-profile examples of where I
similarly think redution should be aimed at before etch nears a
releaseable state.

> > I do not think it's a good thing to have multiple minor versions in
> > the archive simultaneously, especially considering zope2 is
> > apparantly obsolete already. 
> 
> We will see what happens by the time etch is released. 

I mailed you guys now because I think that by that time, it is no longer
possible to consider doing anything for etch, and that changes like
discontinuing a branch of software in Debian take time.

Anyway, thank you all for considering this, I'll now shut up, and let
the people who are doing all the work on zope decide about this.

Bye,
--Jeroen

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