[Pkg-zope-developers] zope instance manager

[Reinout van Rees]

Igor Stroh wrote:
> martin f krafft wrote:
>> also sprach Igor Stroh <igor at rulim.de> [2006.05.11.1701 +0200]:
>>>> FYI:
>>>>   http://vanrees.org/weblog/archive/2006/05/11/handy-zope-instance-manager
>>> man dzhandle :)
>> Sure; the point is that maybe it would pay off to work together with
>> van Rees, rather than have two separate tools. If his work comes
>> through, dzhandle will be used only by Debian, I can guarantee that.
>> And we do not want that.
> 
> FWIW, dzhandle is _designed_ to be used in Debian and Ubuntu. Have you
> checked the source of reinout's instance manager? Can it handle multiple
> Product versions? Does it comply with Debian policy? I'm pretty sure it
> needs to be heavily patched to do so. IMHO it's not worth it...

I'm late in reading the email that I procmail'ed off into subfolders,
that's why I'm late in reacting, sorry.

I didn't know dzhandle existed. I assume it's pretty recent as I was
developing on debian till about a year ago. (Could have missed it even
then).

From what I see when googling, it allows you to create instances,
probably "global" instances, to be run on the server. If that's the
case, there are two differences with instancemanager:

The first one is that instancemanager aims more at the developer that
wants some intances somewhere in his home dir on his development
machine. dzhandle seems to aim more at server deployment.

The second one is that instancemanager performs *more* tasks (I think).
It takes care of putting the right products in your Products/ directory
(varying per project). Copying a sample Data.fs (like the latest
production database from the customer's website). Etc. Creating the
instance (what dzhandle does) is just one step.

So: I think it aims at different things. My tool is pretty OS-agnostic,
having to work on both Ubuntu and OSX (and it probably runs on windows
too), so that's also a different outlook. Now that I know it exists I'm
going to take a look, it is probably really handy for instance
management on our Debian servers (and it might take care of /etc/init/
start/stop scripts and so).

Reinout

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Reinout van Rees                            r.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl
http://vanrees.org/weblog/                     http://zestsoftware.nl/
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