[Pkg-zsh-devel] Blog posting asking for zsh-static users/usages?

Michael Prokop mika at debian.org
Mon Mar 9 07:46:17 UTC 2015


Hi!

* Axel Beckert [Sun Mar 08, 2015 at 10:38:48PM +0100]:
> Hi,

> a few months ago we had a discussion on IRC about whether we still
> need a zsh-static package.

> I'd do a posting in my blog and on planet debian with approx. the
> following contents:

> ---8<---
> Do we need a zsh-static package in Debian?
> Dept: Debian Zsh Packaging
> Tags: zsh, zsh-static, packaging, dietlibc, glibc, bug
> Tags: question, Planet Debian

> <p>

> Dear Planet Debian,

> </p><p>

> the Debian Zsh Packaging Team (consisting of Mika Prokop, Frank
> Terbeck, Richi Hartmann and myself) wonders if there's still a reason
> to build and ship a <debpkg zsh-static> package in Debian.

I'd actually prefer "Michael Prokop" :)

> </p><p>

> There are multiple reasons:

> </p><ul>

> <li>None of us packagers really uses it. (A weak reason, yes.)</li>

> <li><a class="ext"
> href="https://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=zsh-static;show_installed=on;show_vote=on;want_legend=on;date_fmt=%25Y-%25m;beenhere=1"
> >Low popcon</a>: "installed" peak at ca. 150, decreasing; "vote" peak
> at ca. 40, decreasing, too.</li>

> <li><p>The statically compiled Zsh <a class="ext"
> href="https://bugs.debian.org/354631" >has some annoying
> restrictions (#354631 et al)</a> for a long time (over 9 years now) which only can be
> fixed if some other packages change:</p>

> <p>To cite Clint Adams, long time Debian Zsh package maintainer: <q
> src="https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354631#27">the
> problem is that user/group lookups are disabled in the -static build
> because glibc's NSS ABI is unstable and static binaries still need to
> load NSS modules dynamically.</q></p>

> <p>One solution here would be to compile against <a class="ext"
> href="https://packages.debian.org/dietlibc-dev" >dietlibc</a>, but for
> that <a href="https://bugs.debian.org/471208" class="ext" >we'd need
> an ncurses libary built against dietlibc (#471208)</a>, too.</p></li>

> </ul><p>

> So we ask <em>you</em>, the Planet Debian reader:

> </p><p align="center"><big>

> Do you need Debian's zsh-static package?

> </big></p><p>

> If so, please send an e-mail to us <a class="mail"
> href="mailto:pkg-zsh-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org" >Debian Zsh
> Maintainers <pkg-zsh-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org></a> and
> state that you use zsh-static, and, if you want, please also state why
> or how you're using it.

> </p><p>

> Thanks in advance! Mika, Frank, Richi and Axel

> </p>
> --->8---

> Is that ok for you?

Absolutely, thanks for taking care!

regards,
-mika-
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