[Python-apps-team] Bug#708573: trac-accountmanager: Please remove Python Applications Packaging Team as maintainer

[Scott Kitterman]

On Friday, May 17, 2013 01:50:09 PM Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> On 05/17/2013 01:40 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > If the team moves to full source git archives, I'll just drop the team
> > from
> > all the packages I maintain.
> > 
> > Scott K
> > 
> > P.S.  See, now the fun begins.
> 
> fun, indeed.  it sounds to me like you're saying:
> 
>  A) re: #708573 if some members of the team want to use full source git
> archives for some PAPT packages, they cannot keep those packages as part
> of the team, because
> 
>  B) any VCS transition needs to be all packages or none of them, and
> 
>  C) if such a full transition happens then you will take "your" packages
> out of the team.
> 
> 
> 
> This doesn't sound like a team, it sounds like a weird fiefdom with
> people holding each other hostage.  No, thanks.
> 
> I rescind my offer to drive a team-wide transition, since i had offered
> it in order to try to respond in good faith to the concerns of people
> who wanted a uniform packaging framework, but apparently that's not
> feasible.
> 
> I will instead move any packaging i'm responsible for to collab-maint,
> where people can work together more easily even if they have slightly
> different habits from each other.  I welcome anyone from PAPT (or
> elsewhere!) to work on those packages with me if they like, and i'm
> sorry that i'm apparently not allowed to do this under the PAPT umbrella.
> 
> Bummer, because i was looking forward to having explicit support from
> other packagers who are specifically interested in making python
> applications work well with debian, which is what i had imagined PAPT
> would be.

You misunderstand.

I'm all for having a good common environment for the team to work on.  I 
happen to think you suggested just about the worst one possible.  I've tried 
it and I find it much more complex, error prone, and time consuming than what 
we have now.

So I'm all for improvement, but it should be an improvement.  I'd love it if 
we we using a DVCS, but I don't think full source branches are a good idea.

Scott K
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