[Python-modules-team] Bug#551926: Bug#551926: cannot be installed together with pip or pip-python

gregor herrmann gregoa at debian.org
Sat May 8 12:55:55 UTC 2010

On Sat, 08 May 2010 08:27:40 -0400, Jonathan Yu wrote:

> I see no reason for Perl's pip to have to change its name, simply
> because the author of Python's pip chose a name which was already in
> use by someone else, and because the author was already informed that
> something like this might happen, and chose to proceed anyway.

The situation as I see it:
* Both upstream authors want to keep the name.
* Sandro wants the python package to keep pip, Jonathan wants the
  perl package to keep pip.
* Deadlock.

I guess that's why Raphaël pointed to the default resolution in such

| Hence all packages should rename their /usr/bin/pip to something else and
| document the difference vs upstream in README.Debian.

> In summary: if we do not need the Perl version, remove it. 

pip doesn't have any rdepends.
I was curious what it was needed for in the first place; I had a
hunch about padre, and indeed:

padre (0.59.ds1-1) unstable; urgency=low


    + remove pip from dependencies


 -- Damyan Ivanov <dmn at debian.org>  Fri, 09 Apr 2010 12:03:52 +0300


padre (0.48.ds2-1) unstable; urgency=low

  * New Upstream Version
    + new dependencies:

      - pip 0.13


 -- Damyan Ivanov <dmn at debian.org>  Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:40:10 +0200

And indeed, the graphs on http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=pip
look much like the dates when pip was added/removed as a dependency
of padre.

I'm not sure how useful/needed/... pip is on its own. But looking at
the (non-existant) rdepends and the popcon values I think RMing it
would be a viable solution.


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