[Reproducible-builds] Recent issues with faketime in debian/rules during reproducible-builds builds

[Axel Beckert]

Hi,

Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Montag, 19. Oktober 2015, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > I don't think that
> > faketime is a lot special about this. Most of the time a simple
> > "touch" and options like tar's --owner and --group are enough to
> > achieve reproducibility. Personally, I have not seen faketime to be
> > used a lot, but this is just a personal feeling.
> 
> we don't use faketime *at all*, as it has been been proven to be problematic / 
> breaking some / many builds.

As could be seen with mp4h. ;-)

> so: we never build *with* faketime, we just build faketime as we build all the 
> packages.

The reason why I talked about faketime is this:
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-wml/mp4h.git/tree/debian/rules#n42

So far it seemed the only way I get most of the issues with mp4h
fixed. Now that I've added some SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH support, I can maybe
get rid of faketime and still get many of the issues fixed. Then
again, in the upload from yesterday I didn't seem to catch all
timestamps inside the documentation fixed.

		Regards, Axel
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